speedycrap
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February 22nd, 2014 at 5:05:46 PM permalink
Normally, I have 200-500 for a crap session. Sometimes I win and sometimes I lose. But I seldom win over \$1,000.

I really like to have \$5,000 in my pocket. So I figure this way to play. The plan:

Tonight say in 1 hour, I will bring \$1,320 to play craps. Saturday night will be min. 10-15/1,000 max.
I will bet \$30 on 5
\$120 on 6 \$100 on hard 6
\$30 on 8
\$30 on 9
Total bet \$320.
Step 1- If I hit hard 6, then I will move the \$1,000 winning to 9 and move \$30 from 9 to hard 6.
Step 2-If I hit any 9, I will bet \$650 on hard 6.
The reason is I have 2 chances of making \$5,000. One is from hitting \$650 on hard 6 and the other is \$1,400 on 9. Hitting 4 9s will get me \$5,000. If this plan fail, I will go back to my regular inside bet.
I will update this thread in 3-4 hours.
PBguy
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February 22nd, 2014 at 5:23:14 PM permalink
Good luck! The odds are definitely against you but I've seen stranger things happen.
endermike
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February 22nd, 2014 at 5:36:38 PM permalink
Good luck.
NokTang
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February 22nd, 2014 at 6:54:19 PM permalink
Quote: speedycrap

Step 2-If I hit any 9, I will bet \$650 on hard 6..

What is the limit on the hardways?
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February 22nd, 2014 at 7:39:07 PM permalink
It's not my money, but here is my opinion. DON"T DO IT. A quick 7 will ruin your bankroll asap. You're betting 1/4 of your bankroll....yikes.

If you must start with 1320...I would probably do something like look for the table with only a handful of players with a medium to small chip stack. Then I'd start making 1 Don't come bet after an SRR of 6. I would half my next bet on a win. Reset to the desired initial starting bet or half the bet again. Maybe start with something like a 50-100 starting bet. Example, 100 win -> 50 next bet -> if win either go back to 100 to rinse or drop further to 25 -> Rinse and repeat.

Yes I know its a grind, but going for the shooter right out of the gate for 1/4 of your bankroll seems just too far out there for me.
FleaStiff
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February 22nd, 2014 at 7:43:03 PM permalink
Good luck but stay away from the hardways.
speedycrap
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February 22nd, 2014 at 9:00:32 PM permalink
Quote: NokTang

What is the limit on the hardways?

Table limit is 10-15
max is 1,000. Hard 6/8 650 max. Hard 4/10 850 max.
speedycrap
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February 22nd, 2014 at 9:06:38 PM permalink
I just got back from the casino.
First bet as planned. I got 1 number and 7 out.
Down \$258. Up and down with \$200 for 1 hour and half. Then hit it right with 1 shooter.Got a few hard 8 for \$15. Finally up about \$500. Then go back to my system for the night. \$30 on 5
\$120 on 6 and \$100 on hard 6
\$30 on 8
\$30 on 9 Total \$310.
SIGH !!!!!!!!!!! Quick 7 out.
Use my last \$200 profit for \$220 inside, light on 5. Got 1 number and 7 out. SIGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Won \$76 for the night. I am home with a FREE sandwich from the casino
Will try the same PLAN tomorrow night.
Wait for the update. Thanks and good night.
bw

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February 22nd, 2014 at 9:09:03 PM permalink
\$76 and a sandwich sounds good to me.
bw

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February 22nd, 2014 at 9:09:04 PM permalink
Better than my average day at the casino, but I have fun.
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February 23rd, 2014 at 12:00:42 AM permalink
Quote: bw

\$76 and a sandwich sounds good to me.

I prefer a BJ and a steak.

(BJ paying 3:2 of course I'm not a sucker)
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RS
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February 23rd, 2014 at 12:32:26 AM permalink
This has got to be the WORST game plan I've ever seen.

For your \$100 hard 6, prob better off doing something like a \$15 or \$20 hard 6 then parlaying it.

Buy the 4&10 for \$100. When either hits, drop \$5 and press each to \$200 (or press just one to \$300). You can figure out what to do from there.
CrapsGenious
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February 23rd, 2014 at 12:45:31 AM permalink
Quote: RS

This has got to be the WORST game plan I've ever seen.

For your \$100 hard 6, prob better off doing something like a \$15 or \$20 hard 6 then parlaying it.

Buy the 4&10 for \$100. When either hits, drop \$5 and press each to \$200 (or press just one to \$300). You can figure out what to do from there.

So true. Place 4/10 & 6/8 for 120 action and play 25 on all the hardways and parley the wins.

25 on 6/8 @ 9to1 = (225 +25) Parley for a second win = \$2250.00 (2 hardway hits come in quite often before 7 out.
25 on 4/10 @ 7to1 = (175 +25) parley for a second win = \$1400

Hit a couple of these and you are good. Just last friday just passed at 2:30am. Player won 23,000.00 from his girlfriend shooting tons of hardways some back to back in just under 1/2 hr of rolls.

Anything is possible.
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February 23rd, 2014 at 6:17:17 AM permalink
I'm sure she deservedly received a hard eight in return. :-)
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GWAE
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February 23rd, 2014 at 6:24:38 AM permalink
Quote: CrapsGenious

So true. Place 4/10 & 6/8 for 120 action and play 25 on all the hardways and parley the wins.

25 on 6/8 @ 9to1 = (225 +25) Parley for a second win = \$2250.00 (2 hardway hits come in quite often before 7 out.
25 on 4/10 @ 7to1 = (175 +25) parley for a second win = \$1400

Hit a couple of these and you are good. Just last friday just passed at 2:30am. Player won 23,000.00 from his girlfriend shooting tons of hardways some back to back in just under 1/2 hr of rolls.

Anything is possible.

someone also won the megamillions.

Isn't this the problem with some gamblers? They only remember short term events. Do you remember when that same person lost 5K because no one hit a hard number. It is kinda like when people congratulate someone for hitting a Royal. What the other person doesn't know is that that lost \$1800 chasing that royal.
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CrapsGenious
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February 23rd, 2014 at 11:01:36 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

someone also won the megamillions.

Isn't this the problem with some gamblers? They only remember short term events. Do you remember when that same person lost 5K because no one hit a hard number. It is kinda like when people congratulate someone for hitting a Royal. What the other person doesn't know is that that lost \$1800 chasing that royal.

Most of us are so used to losing that forums would be flooded with posts. Just 3 months ago there was a michael jackson slot progressive hit for 1.8 million and became the talk of the town. it is true though about short term events being remembered for the long term.

When I rolled that 6 number firebet, I thought i was unstoppable at the craps table, but since then I've come close but havn't done it again since. I still don't give up but i did learn the "hedging tricks" to keep me going for quite some time.
8 more years till retirement.
Tomspur
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February 23rd, 2014 at 11:06:42 PM permalink

I'm sure she deservedly received a hard eight in return. :-)

Stick call....Hard 8....Every womans dream...every man, keep on dreaming :)
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February 24th, 2014 at 8:40:20 AM permalink
Quote: CrapsGenious

Most of us are so used to losing that forums would be flooded with posts. Just 3 months ago there was a michael jackson slot progressive hit for 1.8 million and became the talk of the town. it is true though about short term events being remembered for the long term.

When I rolled that 6 number firebet, I thought i was unstoppable at the craps table, but since then I've come close but havn't done it again since. I still don't give up but i did learn the "hedging tricks" to keep me going for quite some time.

I pretty much stopped playing craps after I cashed in on a 6 point fire. Nothing will ever match that thrill.
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CrapsGenious
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February 24th, 2014 at 10:23:46 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

I pretty much stopped playing craps after I cashed in on a 6 point fire. Nothing will ever match that thrill.

Good Job. If anyone continues to play after making 6 number fire should seek help. thats a 5k win. trying to make any more than that is just plain greed.
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hwccdealer
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February 24th, 2014 at 10:41:21 AM permalink
Hell, while we're being greedy, I like to win majority ownership in MGM Mirage on three straight 12s.

Seriously, though, most of the aggressive plays I see never pay off. Yesterday I had a player continuously bet \$5 on each hardway and parlay it when it hit. At least three times in a row when he did that, the next roll was a 7 out.
chrisr
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February 24th, 2014 at 12:00:55 PM permalink
you're best bet if you are only interested in turning \$500 to \$5000 in a -EV game.. would be to place as few bets as possible.

i.e. bet all \$1200 on a come bet with odds.. then repeat betting all of your winnings.. you hit 2 points you have your \$5000 dollars.. it's pretty much a fair 10:1 proposition considering the free drink.
odiousgambit
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February 25th, 2014 at 2:40:23 AM permalink
Quote: chrisr

you're best bet if you are only interested in turning \$500 to \$5000 in a -EV game.. would be to place as few bets as possible.

i.e. bet all \$1200 on a come bet with odds.. then repeat betting all of your winnings.. you hit 2 points you have your \$5000 dollars.. it's pretty much a fair 10:1 proposition considering the free drink.

This, making it to be as few bets as possible, is well known to be correct.
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