Dice Precision Balanced
Quote: allinriverkingWhat about a die, in which the pips are indented into the die?
not used in casinos
Quote: allinriverkingSo then, could any shape, letters or numbers be placed on the sides of those dice and they remain balanced?
Dice, including pips are perfectly in balance when they come from the manufacturers. Casinos use callipers to make sure that they are in fact i balance.
If you want to change the balance you have to introduce something with a discernable weight in order to affect the outcome of the regular roll of the dice. I would assume once you do so it would be noticeable enough for the casino to pick up on it immediately but I'm not a scientist, I don't know how that would work!
Quote: TomspurDice, including pips are perfectly in balance when they come from the manufacturers. Casinos use callipers to make sure that they are in fact i balance.
If you want to change the balance you have to introduce something with a discernable weight in order to affect the outcome of the regular roll of the dice. I would assume once you do so it would be noticeable enough for the casino to pick up on it immediately but I'm not a scientist, I don't know how that would work!
Tomspur, you are saying the pips themselves have an effect on the balance of the die? Where their placed, and how many?
My concern is if anyone would come up with a new dice game, would the pips have to be equally placed and equal sizes of pips need to be used to pass the caliper test?
Quote: wudgedThere isn't anything special about the pips. They are the exact same thing as the rest of the die, just a different color. The pips could be anything - letters, numbers, dots, squares, skulls, whatever. The size doesn't matter; they are the exact same material so it would be the same as having a completely blank face.
But what if the number of pips is prime?
That's why they use three prime numbers and three non-prime numbers. Duh!Quote: AxiomOfChoiceBut what if the number of pips is prime?
Quote: BleedingChipsSlowlyThat's why they use three prime numbers and three non-prime numbers. Duh!
Of course! Now it all makes sense.
Quote: allinriverkingAside from the Bill Cosby's responding, thank you for responses. I would like to create a new dice game from the ground up, that would be easy for players. a game that uses 6 sided dice, but without the traditional 1-6 pips used. I would have to know that these dice will be precisely balanced, before I proceed.
The pips are part of the dice. They are not painted or stuck on the dice. They cannot be removed without disfiguring the dice.
No, I did not say that you canc hange the shape or the actual amount of pips, I merely said that you would have to place an outside substance on the dice or have access to the manufacturing process in order to tamper with the dice.
If I were you I would start with a dice manufacturer and speak to them about customizing your dice. There are some very good ones but obviously customization takes longer and in order to make the run worthwhile you need to order at least 1000 sticks of dice. (Last i recall)
All the best!
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Quote: allinriverkingAside from the Bill Cosby's responding, thank you for responses.
Paraphrasing Bill Cosby: "I'll make a killing at the casino if they ever change the name of the game to 23."
