Call betting 96 across in craps play for free. What are the odds?
Walk up to any craps table making sure the dealer sees your cash bank roll of at least $100. (Don't throw it in the table area).
Wait till shooter is in the middle of a roll "point established" rolling towards you
Just as the stick man passes dice to shooter, look to see if the shooter sets his dice.
At this time just before he shoots, tell the dealer "96 across including the point" (Call bets are allowed in most casinos)
Dealer books the bet, shooter rolls the dice. Just as the dice lands making a number (example 4 gets rolled), tell the dealer "Take my bets down sir"
Without having to throw your money on the table, the dealer will simply pay you $27 for the 4.
Yes the 7 could get rolled, but what are the odds of this ever happening? :)
Quote: CrapsGenious
Yes the 7 could get rolled, but what are the odds of this ever happening? :)
1 in 6 thanks for playing next caller!
Quote: Dicenor33John Patrick has a similar idea. It's called regression. What if a shooter keeps throwing good numbers for another half hour?
In that case I would suggest playing at a $5.00 table and call out "Action, 160 across including the point" and whatever number gets rolled, "take my bets down to 32 across including the point sir"
I believe the average is 5:1 that the dice setting shooter will in many sessions roll a number before a 7.
Beats the hell out of the "marty" :)
Quote:Cash in on dice setters. This is too easy.
Walk up to any $5.00 craps table making sure the dealer sees your cash bank roll of at least $200. (Dont throw it in the table area).
Wait till shooter is in the middle of a roll point established rolling towards you
Just as the stick man passes dice to shooter, look to see if the shooter sets his dice.
At this time just before he shoots, tell the dealer Action 160 across including the point (Call bets are allowed in most casinos)
Dealer books the bet, shooter rolls the dice. Just as the dice land on the table making a number (example 4,5,6,8,9,10), tell the dealer Take my bets down to 32 across including the point sir
Without having to throw your money on the table, the dealer will simply place all the numbers for 32 across and give you some change from the number rolled.
I believe the average is 5:1 that the dice setting shooter will in many sessions roll a number before a 7.
I wrote about this method a while back and it generated a lively discussion:Quote: CrapsGeniousIn that case I would suggest playing at a $5.00 table and call out "Action, 120 across including the point" and whatever number gets rolled, "take my bets down to 32 across including the point sir"
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/1907-how-to-win-at-a-cold-craps-and-be-ready-when-it-turns-hot/
Quote: CrapsGenious
Yes the 7 could get rolled
Yeah, the 7 could show but that hardly ever happens.
Quote: treetopbuddyYeah, the 7 could show but that hardly ever happens.
happens just enough to wipe the wins away leaving you to say "what is the 'chance' (not odds) of that happening"
Quote: BuzzardDoes that have something to do with biased dice, or just the effects of dice setting ?
I find this works best with dice setters. one can never tell "biased dice" I would not recommend trying this with new shooters who randomly throw the dice even though it may still work.
Maybe we can write a simple wincraps file to test.
1) Start bank roll with 0 and check "allow negative bankroll"
2) Set to roll dice with no passline bet required.
2) Record results and start new session after 7out.
3) When point is established bet $120 across including the point.
4) When one number (4,5,6,8,9,10) is rolled, regress to $32 across
Under dice probabilities set the dice percentages to relate to the similar numbers rolled in real casino with dice set.
example: if using the V3 set then adjust the 7 to 4.000 and add .500 to each of the outside numbers.
Quote: Beethoven9thMore "genious" advice from the "genious".
Correct spelling "Genius" Big fingers resulted in pressing the "o" key next to the "i" followed by the "u"
Quote: CrapsGeniousCash in on dice setters. This is too easy.
Walk up to any craps table making sure the dealer sees your cash bank roll of at least $100. (Don't throw it in the table area).
Wait till shooter is in the middle of a roll "point established" rolling towards you
Just as the stick man passes dice to shooter, look to see if the shooter sets his dice.
At this time just before he shoots, tell the dealer "96 across including the point" (Call bets are allowed in most casinos)
Dealer books the bet, shooter rolls the dice. Just as the dice lands making a number (example 4 gets rolled), tell the dealer "Take my bets down sir"
Without having to throw your money on the table, the dealer will simply pay you $27 for the 4.
Yes the 7 could get rolled, but what are the odds of this ever happening? :)
Any casino I have been in, has a very large "NO CALL BETS" written on the layout.
SFB
Most layouts say No Call Bets to get rid of shot takers.Quote: CrapsGenious(Call bets are allowed in most casinos)
CrapsGenious casinos love players like you, always trying to figure out a way to beat the casino and coming up with silly systems that you think can beat the casino.
I guess that you mother never told you that there is nothing in life that is free, and you damn surre won't find anything in a casino for free.
Quote: CrapsGenious
Cash in on dice setters. This is too easy.
Walk up to any craps table making sure the dealer sees your cash bank roll of at least $100. (Don't throw it in the table area).
Wait till shooter is in the middle of a roll "point established" rolling towards you
Just as the stick man passes dice to shooter, look to see if the shooter sets his dice.
At this time just before he shoots, tell the dealer "96 across including the point" (Call bets are allowed in most casinos)
Dealer books the bet, shooter rolls the dice. Just as the dice lands making a number (example 4 gets rolled), tell the dealer "Take my bets down sir"
Without having to throw your money on the table, the dealer will simply pay you $27 for the 4.
Yes the 7 could get rolled, but what are the odds of this ever happening?
Evidently you have a lot of time on your hands to come up with these bets that have been out there failing for years. You show all the wisdom in the world, that I see just about everyday on the craps tables. I love your statement of waiting till the last possible second to call in your bet, therefor stopping the shooter dead in his track or making them flinch, because they thought money was coming flying across the table.
Most casinos won't let you make call bets because of shot takers, yes there are some out there that will let it happen, but their days are numbered, if they get hit with a shot taker that has big money.
Everybody calls me a DI, I pay all the time, and I will tell you one thing that everybody should know but because of all the fiction written about the DI's they believe just like you do that the DI's are miracle shooters that can't do no wrong, I guess you never read that the so-called DI's have a awful lot of PSO's or short rolls just like everybody else does.
99.9% of everybody that sets the dice doesn't know what they are doing, they have seen somebody else that got on a good roll setting the dice and thinks that if they do the same thing they will have good luck, just like the guy that got on the roll.
Did you ever stop to think that if the guy does seven out you have to hit five or six payng hits to get your money back from that one short roll?
You can do just about anything when playing craps in your mind, but when it come to playing the real thing, you soon find out that you have been living in a fantasy land, when reality hits the table, that you are playing on.
Quote: CrapsGenious
Cash in on dice setters. This is too easy.
Yes, that is want all the schools want you to believe, I only know of one of them that actually tells it like it is, and don't feed their students a bunch of BS. DI's make their money using really good betting and knowing when to walk away from the craps tables when things are going badly for them. Nobody knows when that next seven out is coming. So basically you are saying to everybody on this board, lets see if we can get lucky and get one hit, to make some money, while showing some very bad table etiquette!
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DAMN ! !
Quote: CrapsGeniousOK I take it back, I take it back :P
Actually, you could get away with it, maybe once. $27 ain't a lot of cash to a casino. But if you tried to do it three or more times in a row, I am sure they would ask you to refrain from doing that, or just call "No Action!", or escort you out of the building.
SFB
99% of dealers say "bet' or "300 each 6&8
at this point you cannot lose......if a 6 or 8 rolls take your 350 profit......if a seven out rolls drop the cash and when the dealer is taking down your 600 in chips, ask what are you doing with my come bet.
you just got over on this dealer because he should have booked "300 each 6&8, no action in the come"
Quote: ontariodealer
this will work better......walk up just before dice are released and pop down 600 in chips in the come and say 300 each six and eight....make sure you have 600 in cash in your other hand concealed.
99% of dealers say "bet' or "300 each 6&8
at this point you cannot lose......if a 6 or 8 rolls take your 350 profit......if a seven out rolls drop the cash and when the dealer is taking down your 600 in chips, ask what are you doing with my come bet.
you just got over on this dealer because he should have booked "300 each 6&8, no action in the come"
There have been many ways of taking a shot at the casinos, that is why most do not have call bets!
You may get away with a hair-brain scam like what you are saying one time, if you are lucky and the dealers are break-in dealers. The problem with that is most players want to continue playing craps, and not get kicked out of every casino around. You see all kind of shot takers at the tables, but they don't last long in most casinos.
If your a dealer or you play craps all the time you see just about anything on the craps tables, but what I truly love to see is the guys that think they really came up with something that is going to just kill the casinos, heading to the ATM's so they can buy back into the game, they just know what they came up with is going to work, after all they ran it on WinCraps thousands of time, there is no way that it's going to lose. They are the one that will always keep the casinos in business!
If you just bought a system or you came up with one, please come to Vegas, I need to know that when I head down to the casino, their doors will always be open. I want to take the time here to thank everyone of you that think you have the ultimate winning system.
Lets see, if I roll a hard ten, that means that I'm going to seven out and I should turn off all my bets, or was it if I roll a twelve that I should turn off all my bets? Craps systems are built on fools, that are always looking for that magic bullet. Gee I wish that I had no conscious, I have a few dozen systems that I could rework and come up with a fancy name for them, I could even get a few players to swear by them if I paid them off, I could even give a 100% guarantee that if you did everything I wrote in my system and it didn't work I would give you're money back, after I reviewed how you played.
Here are a few that you don't even have to pay for, and it should keep CrapsGenious busy for a while.
http://www.crapspit.org/crapdata.htm
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No human could possibly ask the questions he does and actually be serious.
If you think about it he really is a grnious.
He knows ow to stir people up.
KB1
Quote: superrick
Here are a few that you don't even have to pay for, and it should keep CrapsGenious busy for a while.
http://www.crapspit.org/crapdata.htm
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Thanks for the link. These posted systems should have been tested on wincraps though before they post them. they are all not very good. Some content is a good read.
Matthew Lesko
http://www.consumerfraudreporting.org/leskoscam.php
Just goes to show you that there is a book for everybody, I never heard of this guy, and would never need to read anything by him, because my mother told me that if it says free it comes at a big cost to you.
When it comes to craps you only have to watch Breaking Vegas: "Dice Dominator" to see how a slick video can suck some players in I just wonder how much editing was done when they made this video, you can compare it to this one that is real live action in a casino here in Vegas.
BS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhno_F9vZcw
Real
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFttbRftpeo
By the way good job on your editing Dween, if he had a real book on the subject maybe players wouldn't be throwing their money away, damn why didn't I think of that! Maybe because it still wouldn't do any good, you would have plenty of players still lining up for all the BS that rip off artist come up with about playing craps!
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Quote: superrickThere have been many ways of taking a shot at the casinos, that is why most do not have call bets!
You may get away with a hair-brain scam like what you are saying one time, if you are lucky and the dealers are break-in dealers. The problem with that is most players want to continue playing craps, and not get kicked out of every casino around. You see all kind of shot takers at the tables, but they don't last long in most casinos.
If your a dealer or you play craps all the time you see just about anything on the craps tables, but what I truly love to see is the guys that think they really came up with something that is going to just kill the casinos, heading to the ATM's so they can buy back into the game, they just know what they came up with is going to work, after all they ran it on WinCraps thousands of time, there is no way that it's going to lose. They are the one that will always keep the casinos in business!
If you just bought a system or you came up with one, please come to Vegas, I need to know that when I head down to the casino, their doors will always be open. I want to take the time here to thank everyone of you that think you have the ultimate winning system.
Lets see, if I roll a hard ten, that means that I'm going to seven out and I should turn off all my bets, or was it if I roll a twelve that I should turn off all my bets? Craps systems are built on fools, that are always looking for that magic bullet. Gee I wish that I had no conscious, I have a few dozen systems that I could rework and come up with a fancy name for them, I could even get a few players to swear by them if I paid them off, I could even give a 100% guarantee that if you did everything I wrote in my system and it didn't work I would give you're money back, after I reviewed how you played.
Here are a few that you don't even have to pay for, and it should keep CrapsGenious busy for a while.
http://www.crapspit.org/crapdata.htm
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its not a call bet, you put your bet in the come.....when the 6 or 8 rolls they don't even know they were taken....after one hit regress to 120 each and you are free rolling. There are tons of ways to make money in casino's.
Quote: ontariodealer
this will work better......walk up just before dice are released and pop down 600 in chips in the come and say 300 each six and eight....make sure you have 600 in cash in your other hand concealed.
99% of dealers say "bet' or "300 each 6&8
at this point you cannot lose......if a 6 or 8 rolls take your 350 profit......if a seven out rolls drop the cash and when the dealer is taking down your 600 in chips, ask what are you doing with my come bet.
you just got over on this dealer because he should have booked "300 each 6&8, no action in the come"
So here is my question to you, just how many times have you had this pulled on you?
Quote: bushmanI recall reading somewhere that this kind of bet might have induced the "No Call Bets" we see on the layout. Guy walks up and says "96 across" (put in any other number you want here, up to max bet.) Dealer books it. If 7-out occurs, the call-bettor pulls out $96 from his pocket and walks away. If, however, a box number hits, the call-bettor pulls out $960 ($9600 if really high table limit) from the other pocket and gets paid handsomely. The dealer should have booked it as 96 dollars across. Much like ontariodealer describes. The bettor would then have to confirm the amount (96 or 960/9600.) Only need to win a few of those big bets to make up for the loss on the little bets. Can't remember right now where I read this little story/scam. When I do, I shall post back.
many casino dealers will not book the bet unless they see the cash.
Quote: IbeatyouracesDon't forget his Canadian counterpart Kevin Trudeau and his "Debt Cures" books.
That guy is a awful human being.
Quote: CrapsGeniousCash in on dice setters. This is too easy.
Walk up to any craps table making sure the dealer sees your cash bank roll of at least $100. (Don't throw it in the table area).
Wait till shooter is in the middle of a roll "point established" rolling towards you
Just as the stick man passes dice to shooter, look to see if the shooter sets his dice.
At this time just before he shoots, tell the dealer "96 across including the point" (Call bets are allowed in most casinos)
Dealer books the bet, shooter rolls the dice. Just as the dice lands making a number (example 4 gets rolled), tell the dealer "Take my bets down sir"
Without having to throw your money on the table, the dealer will simply pay you $27 for the 4.
Yes the 7 could get rolled, but what are the odds of this ever happening? :)
The craps tables at my casino have the words "NO CALL BETS" on them - state law. Frankly, it's probably because of people who pull this kind of crap. If the seven rolls, we'd have to have security on hand to get the $96 out of them, and it's just a big mess considering all the feces-heads who take shots at us.
Quote: Ibeatyouraces
I can't believe that people fall for these scam artists. Same goes for all of the real estate "gurus."
Some people make their money by going to work for 40 hours a week or more, and others just scam people with no common sense! In the game of craps there is a never ending source of these type of people! You can sell just about anything to them, they all want to live in La, La, land. Oh if I didn't have a moral upbringing, I could be a multi millionaire by now!
Some of these systems that these guys sell are based on nothing more then superstitions, and to think that they are selling them for $3000, it borders on the line of being criminal, but they get away with it, because like any system they may work some of the time, but not all of the time!
The thing that gets me is you have the owners of some of these craps boards allowing these scam artists to post on their boards, telling everybody how the are winning all the time using their system. You got to wonder if they are getting a cut of the scam!
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to the guy who was talking about 96 across, that wont fly, you cannot mistake 96 for 960......in the old days, we dealt a .25 game and the scam was "320 all the numbers.".....if you booked "320 alll the numbers you were just had because if a number rolled $320 was coming from the guy, if a 7out then $3.20 was handed in.
Quote: ontariodealermost of you don't understand what is going on here......it is not a call bet, you are putting 600 bucks in chips in the come and asking for 300 each 6&8......99% of the dealers book it incorrectly and you are in buisness......if the 6 or 8 rolls, they don't even realize they had just been had.
to the guy who was talking about 96 across, that wont fly, you cannot mistake 96 for 960......in the old days, we dealt a .25 game and the scam was "320 all the numbers.".....if you booked "320 alll the numbers you were just had because if a number rolled $320 was coming from the guy, if a 7out then $3.20 was handed in.
I understand what you are saying about the 600 in the COME, as I am sure many others do. I was working on the house being duped premise and used my example (Call Bets was the thread.) Suffice to say, dealers had to learn to verify the bet (in your example: $3.20 or $320.00)
The best one? Tom Vu!!! :DQuote: IbeatyouracesI can't believe that people fall for these scam artists. Same goes for all of the real estate "gurus."
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/01/despite-pleas-for-mercy-infomercial-king-kevin-trudeau-to-remain-behind-bars/
Quote: IbeatyouracesQuote: Beethoven9thThe best one? Tom Vu!!! :D
Haha, I remember that one.
The most prominent scammer I see on TV these days is Dean Gaziosi. First time I saw him, his angle was buying and reselling cars.
He is the ultimate scammer. Promises tablet, mp3 player, gift card, etc for attending and staying entire 4 hours. Nobody gets the stuff, will be mailed later. Only to those who sign up for $2,000 seminar is my guess. Amazing thing is after signing as many suckers as he can, then a special offer is make for those who can not afford $2,000 at this time. In the back room, no less. LOL
