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Quote: Mosca

I'm not sure a skeptic chooses sides. Skeptics simply refuse to believe in things for which there is no evidence. Anything that has been proven, someone has done the hard work. If you don't want to do the work, I believe that a skeptic is completely justified in saying, "Meh."

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Quote: Ahigh

This is a lot of work to collect the evidence, and that's what I am still focusing on now: the equipment and process to easily-enough collect the evidence necessary to demonstrate if it's possible to control the dice enough for a player advantage.

It's not a lot of work to collect the evidence. The reality is you are trying to make it a bigger project than it really is. You don't need computers and cameras and microphones and color graphics or any thing else.

You just go to the tables and see if the people who claim to have the ability to influence dice or even control dice win consistently. They don't.

Even the "masters" of DI who have been featured on reality TV shows did not always have monster rolls. Why? Because they just can't influence or control the dice to any significant degree above random results. And this is why "random shooters" have monster rolls... which can be greater money makers than any so called DI has had.

I urge you to keep trying to influence the dice yourself, but this "research" of yours is really never going to produce anything that can possibly prove DI exists. And to be honest, it won't disprove it either because theoretically it's possible. We all know that theoretically it's possible... just as we all know that theoretically you can get back to back royals on the same video poker machine -- yet how many times has it happened and to how many video poker players?

I think what we all know from going to casinos is that there is a great divide between what is theoretically possible and what actually happens.

And as I have always said: when it comes to dice influencing it doesn't hurt to try.

Approached table fifth time and won again. Bet on myself and others. Started small, ended with 5 times the original on each number. I think I know what is going on here. It was gr8 who used term"talking shoe", and I had "talking dice" Years of finding the perfect shot, that what it is. Somewhere in a back of my head tells me that dice is good- go for it, most of the time - forget it, not worth the effort.

Quote: scepticus

I think that the truth is that in gambling "games " such as Craps and Roulette "Random " rules so that no one can claim certainty . So the Wizard can only give the "Expectation " of an event not it's " Certainty ". Gamblers , in turn, can only make guesses - guesses made haphazardly or with method . Criticism of gambling in a gambling site seems ridiculous .

Good point!

10 times odds? You might be in a negative up swing. We are talking about huge bankroll. You can be wiped out before the things will turn around. $200 on a random shooter? Not my way of playing.

Quote: scepticus

I think that the truth is that in gambling "games " such as Craps and Roulette "Random " rules so that no one can claim certainty . So the Wizard can only give the "Expectation " of an event not it's " Certainty ". Gamblers , in turn, can only make guesses - guesses made haphazardly or with method . Criticism of gambling in a gambling site seems ridiculous .

I've said it before, I'll say it again: the best way to become a successful gambler is to get really, really good at guessing what will happen next.

Quote: MathExtremist

Failure to disprove a premise is not proof of the premise. It is, however, a pretty severe logical fallacy. I would expect someone who works in a corporate-funded research lab to know this.

You cannot disprove the premise that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster who created all that we see and all that we feel, nor can you disprove that there is a teapot orbiting the Sun somewhere between here and Mars. But under your logic, failure to disprove implies both must be true. That's plainly ridiculous.

Also, according to your own statistics, you have a +8% edge on any hopping hardway bet, and probably more on the all-day hardways. Yet you never bet them. Your own actions do not support your proclaimed faith in your ability to influence the dice. If I had an 8% edge, I'd be betting it.

See, this is why I read the craps threads; every once in a while a gem like this comes along. Flying spaghetti monsters and orbiting teapots; sounds like ME's chinese-italian mashup is backing up on him. Love it!

I think this thread belongs in the "Dice Setter" forum as well. The thread was basically created as a way to smear me by making false claims relating to something I said about this website being "geared for beginners."

As a result, there's a lot of conversation in here that is not relevant for someone who thinks that all craps shots are "just random."

So how about we move this one to the other forum, guys?