Why do craps advantage players complain about biased dice?

"Las Vegas Casinos are systematically using Biased Dice in an effort to cheat their customers and increase profits. These Biased Unbalanced Dice are mostly used every weekend, holidays and especially when marketing promotions have targeted high rollers into the casino. Furthermore, the down economy has tempted most casinos to use the Biased Dice more often to guarantee fewer losses."

If a casinos are really using dice biased toward seven outs, why don't these dice controllers bet the minimum on the don't, lay max odds, and then set the dice for 7 after they establish a point?

Based on what I've witnessed the last few trips to my favorite casino for craps, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they're using loaded dice and I plan on making a lot of money off their crooked dice... :p

The only people complaining are the ones who are banned from this forum. (Then again, the question is moot since it has yet to be proven that there is such thing as a "craps advantage player")

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If a casinos are really using dice biased toward seven outs, why don't these dice controllers bet the minimum on the don't, lay max odds, and then set the dice for 7 after they establish a point?

Based on what I've witnessed the last few trips to my favorite casino for craps, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they're using loaded dice and I plan on making a lot of money off their crooked dice... :p

Las Vegas casinos don't use gaffed dice. The casino industry is highly regulated, and no casino would ever risk, consider, or partake in such shenanigans when having a clean game in full safety is profitable.

The table hold percentages of common table games have remained steady on a game by game basis, and casinos lost money due to lack of patronage during the recession.

The link to the craps advantage player site's assertion is 100% speculation and fabrication; all a player has to do to profit from "Seven-out dice" being used is to play the don't and DC, becoming a "dark side AP," so to speak.

Furthermore, a single instance of a casino operator using gaffed equipment would be a huge scandal visible in all the major gaming publications, as well as the newspapers, with gaming authorities responding by reading the riot act to operators coast-to-coast.

The whole assertion by that site is a crock.

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A train leaves with 1,000 people from LA headed to NYC. Along the way 100 get murdered, but 100 people are born. It doesn't matter as long as 1000 people make it to NYC is the idea, but if you were the 100 people murdered, I think it would matter to you.

I just believe it is possible a material science engineer could develop dice which do not follow the predictability, but still in the long run have the same results. The casinos could have some of these practices to ensure confidence, but they don't and I find it strange. It doesn't seem they're willing to prove it.

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I think we will all be living on the planet Mercury before that ever happens.

It's here now

More than a handful of craps pros working the strip these days and making a decent living.

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It's here now

More than a handful of craps pros working the strip these days and making a decent living.

According to whom? Themselves?

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