FleaStiff
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June 23rd, 2013 at 10:10:21 AM permalink
Quote: sodawater

It may be counter intuitive, but betting $1 on all 38 numbers and betting $38 on 1 number has the exact same expectation and cost. One might be more FUN than the other, but that's for the individual player to decide.

Betting on just one number can really deplete your bankroll and considered FUN only when that one number hits! Time at Table can be important as well as "fun".
MonkeyMonkey
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June 23rd, 2013 at 10:20:25 AM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

Doesn't that diminish your bet and add to the already substantial house edge? If you win on Black-29 then the chances of the other bets winning as well has a probability of zero. If you take the example out to the ridiculous then if you bet a dollar on all numbers except Black-29 you will lose a dollar on each spin with the added possibility of losing all $37. Isn't it better to bet one number only?



If he plays "29" and "paints the corners" he'll win on any number between 25 and 33, it's just a matter of how much he'll win on the various numbers.

A picture may help...


He's risked $5 total and will get paid the following amount should he hit any of the numbers he bet on:

25 - $8
26 - $16
27 - $8
28 - $16
29 - $67
30 - $16
31 - $8
32 - $16
33 - $8

As a rule, I never play roulette, but if I stop just for fun I'll put my $5 on "11" and the splits 8/11, 10/11, 11/12 and 11/14 but that's because I like 11 and the mnemonic 4 dogs peeing a tree pays 103.

In my case, my $5 would pay:
8 - $17
10 - $17
11 - $103
12 - $17
14 - $17
DJTeddyBear
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June 23rd, 2013 at 10:20:53 AM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

Quote: Mission146

I always slap a buck on Black-29, and paint the corners of Black-29 with a buck each.

If you win on Black-29 then the chances of the other bets winning as well has a probability of zero.

"Paint the corners" means the 4 four-number combination bets that include 29. If 29 hits, they all win.
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MonkeyMonkey
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June 23rd, 2013 at 10:30:50 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Betting on just one number can really deplete your bankroll and considered FUN only when that one number hits! Time at Table can be important as well as "fun".



It would depend on how you did it, and how things went. Assuming 2 players begin, each with 38 units:

If you bet just 1 unit on 1 number you'd last longer (assuming no wins) than if you bet all 38 numbers (assuming only the first spin wins, because it has to). If you started with 38 units you'd lose 3 on the first spin no matter what. So on subsequent spins you'd only be able to cover a subset of the numbers, increasing your chance of losing each time. You could, in fact, be wiped out after only 2 spins while the player betting 1 unit on 1 number is guaranteed 38 spins.

Hey craps guys, isn't it great when some other game takes over the forum? :)

(say, has anyone checked the availability of WizardofDiceInfluence.com, I bet AHigh could get more visits if he just had a catchier domain name)
darthvader
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June 23rd, 2013 at 3:41:06 PM permalink
Quote: TheWolf713

"Seven out.... Pay the Don'ts, Take the Line "SMH

I can hear the call in the distance as Im walking toward the Table... Now I rarely Play the don'ts... But that day, The DP in me said "hey, that sounds like a great table."

When I arrived and made my buy-in, And put down a DP bet immediately.... 3 Craps Take the line... The Next shot was a 6 followed immediately by a Red 7. This continue with the next 4 shooters. As the dice came to me, in classic DP fashion, I passed them. A guy looks over at me with the most evil stare he could conjure up, While the other players mumbled about their losses. The PSOs didnt stop and within 30 mins I made a nice chunk of change and Colored up, and left. (and they were still standing there teetering on their last few bucks).

It amazes me how a person can teeter with a few bucks for 6-8 hours.

Now while these guys were shooting, 2 of them just so happened to be using the 3V set, Throwing seven after seven after seven. (wannabes obviously)

My question to you is: Why is it so hard for players to say "Well....That didn't work" and change it up?



What are your thoughts?



While I love a hot table as much as any, since they are few, I nominally play the dark side. I can understand why light side players that are losing don't switch sides (out of principle, out of superstition, whatever), but I have always been amazed how many players will continue to play the same table when the results are running horribly against them. Yes, mathematically, it makes no difference, but good money management dictates taking a break, switching tables, etc.
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ncfatcat
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June 23rd, 2013 at 3:54:10 PM permalink
I do the same when I play roulette. I like 23 though from the Illuminati LOL
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RaleighCraps
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June 23rd, 2013 at 5:17:29 PM permalink
Quote: darthvader

While I love a hot table as much as any, since they are few, I nominally play the dark side. I can understand why light side players that are losing don't switch sides (out of principle, out of superstition, whatever), but I have always been amazed how many players will continue to play the same table when the results are running horribly against them. Yes, mathematically, it makes no difference, but good money management dictates taking a break, switching tables, etc.



I will slow down my play on a table that is 'cold', and I may even play the DP for a bit, but it is very rare that I have not seen even a cold table have a few good rolls come out of nowhere.
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