Kids playing craps

My little ten year old loves to play craps, and he is actually a pretty good player.

The last time he played, he specifically asked for $200 buy-in, and he turned it into over $3,100!!



I'm sure this might bring some people to offer me parenting advice, but this kid is damn lucky!

He makes crazy high edge bets pretty frequently, but watching him win so frequently has gotten to be very nearly ridiculously hard to believe!

His favorite bets are horn bets. I don't tell him how to bet, believe it or not. He has his own little system that involves a ton of luck.

LOL.

Or biased dice. Cute kid, by the way.

I really laughed at this. I built a small table to bring out for parties and such and our youngest LOVES the horn and the Yo. He regularly crushes it while everyone else struggles with a series of PSO's.

(Not as young as yours, but he was when he started).

I once found a kid's size BJ table at some place downtown like Gambler's General Store, a nd had to buy it as a gift for a dealer with a young son. It was like "Playskool - my first BJ table !" kind of thing.

Aaron, looks to me you're teaching the kid finely. You learn from Dad, - you learn it right.

He looks like a pit boss, don't you think?

On a serious note . . .

Is there any casino for the kid? Beth Raymer at age 9 (11?) was playing Blackjack for real at a casino in the Bahamas. She sat next to her father who bankrolled her, made her own decisions, gave proper hand signals and every time she was dealt a black jack she high fived her father and took a sip of his beer.

Now I know you won't get any real action for him in Nevada and probably not in the USA ... but anyone know of a place?

The famous original builder of the Imperial Palace told his security staff I don't ever want to see a kid in the place unless he is shooting craps! Unfortunately, the Gaming Board has different views.

Your kid looks so happy. great picture.
Those chips look pretty realistic too. Did you have them made?

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Your kid looks so happy. great picture.
Those chips look pretty realistic too. Did you have them made?

This is the CHEAPEST place to get these chips. There are none finer for the home market IMO.

http://www.apachepokerchips.com/paulson-james-bond-poker-chips.html

Wow much more expensive than I thought. Thanks for the link though

Quote: Ahigh

I'm sure this might bring some people to offer me parenting advice

Yep! Here I come!

Actually I am not enough of a prude to say much. It's hard to imagine that your son would have no interest in what absorbs his dad.

I think you should know it is possible that a youngster is more prone to develop a gambling addiction, according to some. Same sort of idea as it not being good to start young with booze and cigarettes. Personally, I wouldnt feel good about any signs he has an excessive fascination, especially at the expense of other interests.

When I was growing up in the mid 1950s my parents had their friends over for cocktail parties and while the ladies sat in the dining room talking, the men would go into the large foyer that the house had and played craps against a wall on the hard wood floor. I was maybe 6 years old at the time and I got to watch. Real money being thrown only two bets -- pass or dont pass -- no layout "just like in the Army" the men would say. (All WW2 vets like my dad) But I never set foot in a casino until I was 26 when I visited one in St Maarten on my honeymoon, and didnt set foot into another until I was in my mid-40s and those days of watching my dad and his friends had no impact on me...

Except that Mr. Bogash threw the hard 6 four times in a row, while Mr. Wonzer hit his point five times, and Mr Spring lost $60 to Mr Goldberg because he made a side bet that Mr Garson would not throw boxcars. There were a few other things I remembered as a six year old, but don't worry, being exposed to craps won't have any impact on a kid.

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Yep! Here I come!

Actually I am not enough of a prude to say much. It's hard to imagine that your son would have no interest in what absorbs his dad.

I think you should know it is possible that a youngster is more prone to develop a gambling addiction, according to some. Same sort of idea as it not being good to start young with booze and cigarettes. Personally, I wouldnt feel good about any signs he has an excessive fascination, especially at the expense of other interests.

You just had to say it, you could not resist no self control just like an addict possibly from personnel self experience .(can I say, I want to punch some buddy?Ryan Lochte of course) thats total BS. The reason that kids are more likely to develop drinking problems following parents with problems is not monkey see monkey do. Its because the parents are dysfunctional= Absent & abusive mentally, physiology and SEXUALLY ( (sexually most common) I think 9 out of 10 people with drugs and ALC problems are ABUSED. So unless hes beating his with that craps stick and winging chips at him I'm sure Ahighs kid will be just fine. Some parents give ACL to their kids early and its psychology addictive. Young kids drinking ACL is more impacful affecting their brain while it's still developing. Teaching him responsible gambling will only benefit his kid and keep him from the degenerate keno lounges and max beting penny slots. Probability his kid will grow up to excel at (message board defense, definitely a skill needed in 2025) math and probabilities have his own casino that your kids will be playing keno at.

I love it, but be sure to teach him to deal and run a game. Good trade for when he is in college and the freshmen in the dorm are bored.

I wonder how much our first results gambling have to do with how much we like the vice later in life?
If your first experience gambling is a loss of your allowance, does that sour your appetite?
Conversely, if your first few gambling wagers result in wins, does that lead to an increased interest?
Even now, I know when I have suffered through some losing sessions, I lose interest in craps for a while. But it always comes back.....

I don't recall my first wagers, but since I was always looking for angles, I am sure I had a significant edge on my first wagers, and probably won easily. I still vividly remember losing a baseball pool in '83 I think, when I had the winning score with 2 out in the bottom of the ninth. Meaningless runner on 3rd and Goose Gossage is brought in for the final out. Second pitch is a wild pitch, meaningless run scores from 3rd, and next pitch is soft fly to end the game. I lost a huge pool on one lousy pitch. That still stings 30 years later. I don't believe I have entered a pool since that experience.

I do know. I cant watch a football game without a bet of some kind or I'm board to tears. BTW I lost my fist Football bet taking even money & no points beagles vs 49 ers probability 10 point dogs a Superbowl in late 80's.I only made the bet because I had to watch the game, had to become SO FUN.

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I wonder how much our first results gambling have to do with how much we like the vice later in life?
If your first experience gambling is a loss of your allowance, does that sour your appetite?
Conversely, if your first few gambling wagers result in wins, does that lead to an increased interest?
Even now, I know when I have suffered through some losing sessions, I lose interest in craps for a while. But it always comes back.....

I'm not sure, when playing games (Concentration or 500 Rummy) against my Dad with my allowance money, I always had strict win/loss Limits imposed by my Dad. My son is five (cute picture, AHigh) and he doesn't play for any actual money, but he does like for me to deal him a little Blackjack. He's too young to grasp Basic Strategy at this point, but he does play perfect, "Never Bust," strategy. He got the idea to play Never Bust completely on his own.

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I'm not sure, when playing games (Concentration or 500 Rummy) against my Dad with my allowance money, I always had strict win/loss Limits imposed by my Dad. My son is five (cute picture, AHigh) and he doesn't play for any actual money, but he does like for me to deal him a little Blackjack. He's too young to grasp Basic Strategy at this point, but he does play perfect, "Never Bust," strategy. He got the idea to play Never Bust completely on his own.

No cartoons until he can count down a 6 deck shoe with Barney playing loudly in the background, a new puppy running around and his younger sister playing with his favorite toy.

My 6 year old and I play Pokemon tournaments. It's his gateway to learning poker.

What a great way to teach a kid and get him interested in math!

I quit my job every spring and ran a hot dog wagon with my kids, they all excelled at math in school and by 10 years old they could all make change for a hundred dollar bill in the blink of an eye and count it back properly, that is a lost skill as well.

No real money of course, but with crap tables in schools, kids could learn basic math, and shooting and retrieving dice would be more physical exercise than some of them get now.

Sure scoff if you must, but get them interested in numbers any way you can.

I think it would be a topic for a great Ahigh show, get more exposure, go national. Kids shooting, making payouts/collecting losses, maybe need an adult pit boss. Teaching a kid a mathmatical game with winning or losing no more makes them and addict then giving them a fork makes them fat.

Quote: petroglyph

What a great way to teach a kid and get him interested in math!

I quit my job every spring and ran a hot dog wagon with my kids, they all excelled at math in school and by 10 years old they could all make change for a hundred dollar bill in the blink of an eye and count it back properly, that is a lost skill as well.

No real money of course, but with crap tables in schools, kids could learn basic math, and shooting and retrieving dice would be more physical exercise than some of them get now.

Sure scoff if you must, but get them interested in numbers any way you can.

I think it would be a topic for a great Ahigh show, get more exposure, go national. Kids shooting, making payouts/collecting losses, maybe need an adult pit boss. Teaching a kid a mathmatical game with winning or losing no more makes them and addict then giving them a fork makes them fat.

We went to VegasDiceControlled (VDC's) birthday party this weekend. They ran a craps table and Tony was one of the more competent players at the table. He is a great player and had to remind me "I lost my field bet" when a no field number rolled to remind me to take his bet away.

He is very conscious of all the bets and knows when each one pays or loses (but he doesn't currently know how to calculate wins on every bet).

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We went to VegasDiceControlled (VDC's) birthday party this weekend. They ran a craps table and Tony was one of the more competent players at the table. He is a great player and had to remind me "I lost my field bet" when a no field number rolled to remind me to take his bet away.

Is PaiGowDan his Godfather?

(Sorry, couldn't pass that one up.)