Sitting/Getting a Bar Stool to sit on while playing craps?

May read as a stupid question, but are there any casino's(or all?) which will gladly provide a bar type of stool for players who request same at the craps table? I've asked in the past and been denied, even after saying I had a bad back. I don't want to say which casino because I don't remember! Thanks.

Most I've seen will have no objection if you take a chair from a closed table. Sometimes the floor person will ask that you ask, but then get it for you rather than have you dragging it over the floor.

I've never seen them turn down such a request.

People regularly take them from the blackjack tables. It doesn't become a problem until the casino gets crowded.

There are stools provided at Joker's Wild. They are under the table for anyone to use.

They have a lot of old folks over there.

At Harrah's Rincon, the chairs are already at the table; you have to move one if you don't want to sit down.

I wonder why a casino would deny a player a chair at a craps table, especially a player with a bad back. (Perhaps because with chairs they can't get as many players around the table, but still.)

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Most I've seen will have no objection if you take a chair from a closed table. Sometimes the floor person will ask that you ask, but then get it for you rather than have you dragging it over the floor.

I've never seen them turn down such a request.

can a dice setter, set, while sitting?

Of my own experience, Rapid Craps at Bill's, which will be gone if it isn't already, has seats at the table. At the Royal Yak (seriously) casino in Mexico City, the craps tables also have chairs (but only 2X on the odds, yuck!)

And last year at MSS our own Tiltpoul snagged a stool at the craps table. I think he just found it there.

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can a dice setter, set, while sitting?

Shouldn't that be "Can dicesitter, sit, while setting"?

Beau Rivage in Biloxi has stools in the craps area. They have 6 regular tables and one worthless crapless table. There are probably a dozen bar stools scattered around those tables. Late at night, and in the morning, many of the stools are in use.
I personally can't sit on them. I have too much action on the table, so I am always having to stand up every roll. However, on my really long sessions, I will put my knee on the stool to take some pressure off the foot I am standing on. Then I will switch legs. It really helps out a lot.
But, when you have 4 people all sitting on the stools, it really does slow the game down.

This depends on where you play, there are casinos that have no problem here in Vegas if you bring in your own folding stool.
So you might want to ask if you can do the same thing.

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Of my own experience, Rapid Craps at Bill's, which will be gone if it isn't already, has seats at the table. At the Royal Yak (seriously) casino in Mexico City, the craps tables also have chairs (but only 2X on the odds, yuck!)

And last year at MSS our own Tiltpoul snagged a stool at the craps table. I think he just found it there.

So the odds are Yuck at Yak Nareed.

At Caesars they gladly accomodate players who need to sit.

for about three months following my transplant they brought me a chair. Of course I stood when it was time to shoot, but Ive seen players shoot even when sitting.

Never been a problem.

What about folks on those "Rascal" electric scooters, or in wheelchairs? I can't recall seeing someone who could not stand playing craps, but I have seen lot's of stools and chairs used more and more often as the playing population ages.

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At Harrah's Rincon, the chairs are already at the table; you have to move one if you don't want to sit down.

I wonder why a casino would deny a player a chair at a craps table, especially a player with a bad back. (Perhaps because with chairs they can't get as many players around the table, but still.)

It could be a potential ADA violation not to. Now I can see them asking you to sit at a particsr part of the table or a less crowded one. For example, a chair could interfere with the stickman.

I once played at a table at Caesars with a gentlemen who was a paraplegic. He shot the dice from his own wheelchair. Granted, the table was a bit high for him, but he shot the dice and had his chips on the table like everyone else. God bless him.

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At Harrah's Rincon, the chairs are already at the table; you have to move one if you don't want to sit down.

I wonder why a casino would deny a player a chair at a craps table, especially a player with a bad back. (Perhaps because with chairs they can't get as many players around the table, but still.)

It could be a potential ADA violation not to. Now I can see them asking you to sit at a particsr part of the table or a less crowded one. For example, a chair could interfere with the stickman.

There could be liability issues if someone slips or gets knocked off their perch. There's alot of bending over the rail to place bets or watch the dice, so I can imagine a chair slipping out from underneath someone leaning over the rail to pick up their winnings, or someone tripping over a chair leg as they turn to leave.

I think I posted somewhere on this forum about the time I saw a box man refuse to let a player sit at the craps table.

The player was a youngster and had been loud and a bit obnoxious. He dragged a chair over from an idle table, placed it backwards, and straddled it, leaning over the back of it to stare over his chips at the table. The box man told him that craps was a stand-up game and that the player could not sit on a chair unless he had some physical disability. The player took offense at the box man's comment, colored up, and left, which was precisely what the box man wanted, I believe. The kid was acting like a jerk, and I was not sad at all to see him go.

At the moment, I can't remember which casino this happened in.

I will pull up a chair from a closed game to the pit in Shreveport all the time. After standing at the table for several hours, you get tired.

I have never had a complaint from a pit boss or dealer.

Where I work, if a player has a physical problem, or is just tuckered out from a long session, we'll get him a chair, but won't let the majority of the rest sit.

Craps used to be played in back alleys which meant there would be no chairs.
Early movies show craps games at rather higher tables but without chairs.
One Vegas casino had a floating craps game in their swimming pool but it was mainly a publicity event since it was clearly too unstable.

Most of the Day Boats in Florida will allow stools to be used because the players tend to be elderly and need them. Its never been a problem (except for one guy who fell off one when he suffered a heart attack). Some players don't like the stools but they tend to be just crabby players. The Victory which gets the youngest crowd of craps players has allowed a few of the elderly players to use nearby stools with no problems or complaints.

My experience is: if chairs/stools are available and if there is room at the craps table, then they are allowed.

Assuming the stools are not already at the craps table, some casinos would prefer to get the stool for you. Others let you get the stool yourself. During a particular long playing session, I have even been asked by the pit supervisor if they can get a stool for me.

If the nearby table game from which the stool is obtained needs the stool back, it must be returned. But at many casinos where I play, there are nearby slot machines with empty stools that can be retrieved. The problem with those slot stools is that they are not as tall as the table games stools.

In every instance, while throwing the dice, the shooter is required to stand even if they are using a stool otherwise--unless, of course, the shooter has a medical issue that does not allow him to stand. I have only seen that on rare occasions, maybe because if the player has such a medical issue that requires him to sit, then perhaps he is not comfortable shooting and passes the dice.

I saw one instance recently in which the shooter was permitted to sit while throwing the dice (obviously due to a medical issue--he was able to walk to the table though with difficulty) and the player next to him would move the dice to a position on the table where the shooter could reach it (the stick was not able to do that good of a job getting the dice to a good position for the shooter due to betting chips being in the way). The casino naturally did not allow the other player to retrieve the dice from the table to hand it to the shooter. Also in this instance, the player usually got the dice to the end of the table, but not every time. The casino did not hassle him, since they knew he was doing his best. Keep in mind, this particular casino in the Midwest is very player friendly and is more tolerant than perhaps others.

A better question is: whether the use of a stool at a craps table is permitted at a "crowded" table.

Even if stools are being used, as additional people join in and when there is no longer enough room, I have found that most casinos will instruct the player sitting that he must give up the use of the stool to allow the additional people access to the table. This is not always the case, but it seems to be the more common policy.

Frankly, I agree with this policy. One of my few pet peeves at casinos which do not have this policy is when I cannot gain access to the table due to lack of space and there are one or more players sitting--spread out--each taking of the space of two players. The casino, in my mind, would prefer having more players at the table.

Regardless of a policy against the use of a stool at even a crowded table, I've never seen a casino deny the access or use of a stool/chair if the player suffers from an infirmity or disability.

Incidentally, the remark about "liability issues" from a previous poster, I think, is not something the casinos likely give any thought to--nor should they. It is not often the case--contrary to the general belief--that simply when someone is injured in a tripping accident, then the property owner is automatically responsible for the injuries. There are many challenges to the injured party to impose liability or responsibility on the property owner. There still must be a breach by the property owner of a recognized legal duty, and I do not see that here.