Silverton craps table on you tube
December 17th, 2012 at 11:42:52 PM
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Pretty interesting to see it seems that some Asian lady recorded some video. You can see Long pointing the camera out to Kiyoko right before the video gets cut off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26VuhfY_E18
I don't think this is illegal, but it's definitely against the policy of the casino and grounds for being 86'd.
It is illegal to record the audio only, interestingly enough. Nevada is a "two-party" state when it comes to covert audio recording without the consent of the parties being recorded.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26VuhfY_E18
I don't think this is illegal, but it's definitely against the policy of the casino and grounds for being 86'd.
It is illegal to record the audio only, interestingly enough. Nevada is a "two-party" state when it comes to covert audio recording without the consent of the parties being recorded.
aahigh.com
December 18th, 2012 at 1:13:21 AM
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I don't understand what is supposed to be "interesting" here?
December 18th, 2012 at 1:40:36 AM
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I apologize, Alan. It's probably more interesting to me because I know everybody in the video. But the interesting thing in general is that there are now two or three new videos of actual craps tables being played on you tube. This one being added a few weeks ago. There's always been one or two. I thought it might spur some conversation about the legality and/or risks of taking and publishing video like this on you tube.
Are you familiar with the laws as it relates to recording and publishing videos such as this one? I thought someone might be more knowledgeable on the subject than me.
Are you familiar with the laws as it relates to recording and publishing videos such as this one? I thought someone might be more knowledgeable on the subject than me.
aahigh.com
December 18th, 2012 at 2:53:16 AM
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In California it is illegal to make recordings without the consent of the parties, but the law would also look at the intent of the recording and if the recording is made secretly or if the camera is in plain site.
The parties at the table might have had the camera on the rail, and even though they didn't make an announcement that they were recording, the fact that the camera was on the rail (even a cell phone camera) might clear them of any criminal liability.
Casino rules and casino liability is a different matter.
At The Bicycle Casino here in LA there are signs posted that say all photography is prohibited -- and that's fair warning and notice about what the casino's rules are. Does the Silverton have signs posted?
And if they do it just might be a matter of saying "stop recording" because there may not be any harmful intent in making the video.
When I was married at a craps table at Caesars, Caesars provded not only a still photographer but also a videographer to shoot the wedding.
When I hit five numbers on the fire bet a couple of months back, they allowed me to snap a photo of the layout with the five discs on the layout.
I've had casino personnel take my photo every time I hit a $20K royal.
When Caesars had the TV show Caesars 24/7 shot on the property signs were posted that said taping for a TV show was ongoing and you might be on TV.
When "secret recordings" are prosecuted its usually in connection with another crime such as embezzlement, threats, fraud, etc. I've never known anyone who got into any kind of real trouble taking photos in a casino -- even without permission. At most, someone said stop.
In fact the news industry operates under this rule of law: you can shoot video and pictures on private property until someone tells you to stop. By putting that video on you tube, the photographer of that video established himself as a "citizen journalist" and can use the same defense that the news media uses when challenged about the right to shoot video or take pictures. And the question becomes, did someone tell them in advance NOT to shoot??
The parties at the table might have had the camera on the rail, and even though they didn't make an announcement that they were recording, the fact that the camera was on the rail (even a cell phone camera) might clear them of any criminal liability.
Casino rules and casino liability is a different matter.
At The Bicycle Casino here in LA there are signs posted that say all photography is prohibited -- and that's fair warning and notice about what the casino's rules are. Does the Silverton have signs posted?
And if they do it just might be a matter of saying "stop recording" because there may not be any harmful intent in making the video.
When I was married at a craps table at Caesars, Caesars provded not only a still photographer but also a videographer to shoot the wedding.
When I hit five numbers on the fire bet a couple of months back, they allowed me to snap a photo of the layout with the five discs on the layout.
I've had casino personnel take my photo every time I hit a $20K royal.
When Caesars had the TV show Caesars 24/7 shot on the property signs were posted that said taping for a TV show was ongoing and you might be on TV.
When "secret recordings" are prosecuted its usually in connection with another crime such as embezzlement, threats, fraud, etc. I've never known anyone who got into any kind of real trouble taking photos in a casino -- even without permission. At most, someone said stop.
In fact the news industry operates under this rule of law: you can shoot video and pictures on private property until someone tells you to stop. By putting that video on you tube, the photographer of that video established himself as a "citizen journalist" and can use the same defense that the news media uses when challenged about the right to shoot video or take pictures. And the question becomes, did someone tell them in advance NOT to shoot??
