Red Rock stepping up their game!

They now have at least one $5 table 24/7.

They went from 3x4x5x odds to 10x odds.

Tables are the same, and they still have fire bets.

I hadn't been there in almost a year. They still remembered my name though.

I may just have to spend more time over there.

They also redid the bar, I think it's call the "Lucky Bar" or something. It's a much more open look and feel now that they finished that.

They have had 10x odds for two weeks now but I think the $5 mins 24/7 has been around a little longer.

They also are using more low-tech plastic signs instead of the LED signs. I think it might be they are actually making an effort to appeal to the old-school appeal and/or to fit in more with the other stations properties that offer better bargains and less glitz. I suppose it's also possible that the LED signs can't display "10x odds" .. who knows?

Also, limits go to $5000 compared to Silverton's $1000. So they still want to keep the high rollers there, just trying to give everybody a good deal to keep the tables busy all the time. Not sure what the limit is on an odds bet, but I doubt they are going to allow $50,000 odds.

For a 10x table, though, it would be interesting to see $5000 odds bets on $500 lines. I imagine that if it hasn't happened already, there will be some interesting action over there.

I noticed a sign that said the high-limit room would always have at least one $25 minimum bet table. That is a change I applaud.

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I noticed a sign that said the high-limit room would always have at least one $25 minimum bet table. That is a change I applaud.

I would actually like to see a list of all the craps tables in various high limit rooms and what they generally allow.

I have never played at a high limit room craps table, but maybe some day ....

Quote: Ahigh

I would actually like to see a list of all the craps tables in various high limit rooms and what they generally allow.

I have never played at a high limit room craps table, but maybe some day ....

I think he means the $25 high limit DDBJ DAS H17. Craps is only on the main floor unless it has been installed in the past week or two.

Red Rock has also done a few things to put off high volume players. They removed the host desk from the floor, the host that hooked me up is no longer there and the first time I asked for something after she left I was denied when I was not told no in two years. Maybe that explains why she is gone. I suppose that things are going to tighten up there and/or hosts will become less accessible.

Either way, craps tables in high limit rooms is not something I see very often. I may make a list of them for fun. It should be a short list.

Quote: Ahigh

Either way, craps tables in high limit rooms is not something I see very often. I may make a list of them for fun. It should be a short list.

Mohegan Sun has a high limit craps table in the pit with all of the $100 bj tables. It is typically 25 dollars however I have seen it at 100 on the weekends before (nobody playing). 5x odds.

Do you know any in Vegas?

Quote: Ahigh

Do you know any in Vegas?

I do a lot of scouting in LV for my work and the only one that sticks out is the one in the Hilton but the entire high limit area is closed there now. I have not gone into the back room high limit areas or the ones in the highest of casinos that require a host but there sure are not any in the CET properties that I have surveyed (all but Caesars Palace), the mainstream MGM ones, Station, Boyd or Golden Nugget.

Quote: Ahigh

Do you know any in Vegas?

The only one I can think of is in a private gaming room at the Palazzo. I'm not sure how long it had been there, it may have just been temporary to cater to a high-rolling craps player.

Irrespective of the details involved, this once again shows how casinos compete and various opportunities develop and are perceived by the players but then tend to fade away unheralded.

Hosts, host accessibility, host authority, attitudes waxing and waning ... limits waxing and waning. It almost amounts to casino gamemanship in a fog of rumors and perceptions.

I could swear I saw a craps table inside a high-limit area at some point on my last trip...can't remember where though. I didn't go anywhere other than the Strip and downtown. If I remember I'll run it by you guys.

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the mainstream MGM ones

There is a craps table in the high limit room at the MGM Grand. I've never seen anyone playing at the table in the high limit room, but I don't go in there that often (only when I want to play baccarat). They have a good blackjack game (same rules as the high limit room, but, lower limits) outside, so I rarely feel the need to go in.

Once, I saw someone who had his own reserved table out in the general area betting thousands on the line. He played for several hours straight, alone, at least 2 days in a row. I think (although I'm not sure) that was during the time that the high limit room was being renovated, though, so that might have been why he wasn't in there. I could see why he would prefer the high limit room, to avoid the gawkers.

I walked into Bellagio one Sunday morning, about 10:30 AM,and was scanning the craps tables, looking for a $10 table.

I had walked past one table when it suddenly dawned on me I had seen a 1,000 chip on the Buy 4!
I backed up and then realized that there was not a green chip on the table. It was all black, yellow, orange, and brown if I remember correctly.
Basically, $100 minimum, and it seemed that $25K chips were in play. They were definitely in the racks.
Hardway bets were $100 and up.
There were probably 6 to 8 players on the table. A few young punks with them.

I played on the $10 table next to them, not really paying much attention, and when I looked over around noon, there was not a player in sight.

Makes me think there might be some place else that they play in Bellagio.

Green Valley Ranch is also 10x odds now. A welcome change. I couldn't bring myself to play craps there before, even though it is the closest casino to my office.

Both Red Rock and GVR have always had $5 craps 24/7. Last time I was at Red Rock, Joe Thiesman (I didn't realize it was him until after), came in and dropped about three buy-in's of $800 each. Of course he bet across. I should have given him the WizardOfVegas.Com business card :)

RR has always had $25 DD BJ in the high limit, but they are promoting it now for some reason. It's one of my favorite games to play. (Hmm...$25 minimum, uncrowded, deal to 1/4 of pack, quick premium beverage service...yes, please).