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odiousgambit
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September 14th, 2017 at 5:53:30 AM permalink
In Craps, the Darksiders tend to be just as bad as any middle-table bettors.

We saw a real moron during the eclipse down in NC; apologies to those who've read this before.

Like [I'd estimate] at least 1 in 3 darksiders, probably half of them, he takes 'no action' on the 6 and 8 to resolve. And the guy was putting a bunch of black chips on the Don't, probably $1000. I tried to converse with him, but he wouldn't give me the time of day. It was 10x so of course he could have reduced his bet and used the free odds to fill out the $1000, but no. I can hear him thinking "it's stupid to get paid less than even".

Then he gets an 8 to resolve, so naturally he moves the entire stack to the DC - "I have bad luck with those numbers" of course being a good reason to do that - in his mind. He then got a 4 to resolve, and I think he won it.

The table had been cold for right-siders up till then, but he seemed to just be staying even with that win. When it warmed up a bit for a while it delivered some blows to our boy and he was gone. As Right-siders we all agreed we lost money, plenty, on that particular session. Yet this brilliant Darkside player walked away a loser.
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September 14th, 2017 at 7:46:31 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

In Craps, the Darksiders tend to be just as bad as any middle-table bettors.

We saw a real moron during the eclipse down in NC; apologies to those who've read this before.

Like [I'd estimate] at least 1 in 3 darksiders, probably half of them, he takes 'no action' on the 6 and 8 to resolve. And the guy was putting a bunch of black chips on the Don't, probably $1000. I tried to converse with him, but he wouldn't give me the time of day. It was 10x so of course he could have reduced his bet and used the free odds to fill out the $1000, but no. I can hear him thinking "it's stupid to get paid less than even".

Then he gets an 8 to resolve, so naturally he moves the entire stack to the DC - "I have bad luck with those numbers" of course being a good reason to do that - in his mind. He then got a 4 to resolve, and I think he won it.

The table had been cold for right-siders up till then, but he seemed to just be staying even with that win. When it warmed up a bit for a while it delivered some blows to our boy and he was gone. As Right-siders we all agreed we lost money, plenty, on that particular session. Yet this brilliant Darkside player walked away a loser.


Buy the bet off of them!!
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odiousgambit
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September 14th, 2017 at 8:33:50 AM permalink
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Buy the bet off of them!!

The only AP move in Craps !

assuming random throws and no cheating.

Buying the bet was very much on my mind, which is why I tried to start a conversation. Unfortunately, he was unapproachable, wouldn't even chat. I am finding that this is pretty typical of darksiders, the less they know what they are doing the more clammed up they are.

I was not going to offer anyway unless he lowered his bet size to somewhere reasonable.
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September 14th, 2017 at 3:38:58 PM permalink
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... I was not going to offer anyway unless he lowered his bet size to somewhere reasonable.

Can you buy a portion?
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September 14th, 2017 at 4:10:33 PM permalink
When I used to play craps a bit there was a couple of players that I knew who I would let piggy back odds on. Because I am not in love with variance and wanted my bankroll to last, at a $5 3/4/5 Crap Table I might play $10/$12/$15 odds on the numbers (4/10, 5/9, 6/8). I would let a couple of players put the odds up to the max and I would calculate and send payment when they came through.

I didn't have a problem doing that with players I am familiar with, but it's only happened a couple of times over the years.
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September 14th, 2017 at 4:15:17 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

When I used to play craps a bit there was a couple of players that I knew who I would let piggy back odds on. Because I am not in love with variance and wanted my bankroll to last, at a $5 3/4/5 Crap Table I might play $10/$12/$15 odds on the numbers (4/10, 5/9, 6/8). I would let a couple of players put the odds up to the max and I would calculate and send payment when they came through.

I didn't have a problem doing that with players I am familiar with, but it's only happened a couple of times over the years.



I got to do that for the first time recently. It was a very winning strategy for me, and for the other person too, I think.
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odiousgambit
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September 14th, 2017 at 5:29:29 PM permalink
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Can you buy a portion?



whoa, good luck making it complicated if you are dealing with a stranger. Keeping it simple is challenge enough even though you can afford to give a little up on wins to sweeten the pot. Perhaps someone with the knack has better luck getting someone to go along with it, they tend to be very suspicious. And, as noted, prospects tend to be weirdos to begin with. Plus they can't be playing 'correctly' or there is no opportunity.
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February 6th, 2018 at 7:30:51 AM permalink
I saw one on Saturday night I couldn’t believe. Playing six-deck blackjack … the guy to my left gets Q7 for an obvious 17. Dealer upcard is an 8. After I play my hand (don’t remember what I had), this guy DOUBLES his hard 17 and hits a 3 for 20. Even the ploppies were stunned at this move. The dealer didn’t blink, kept going, and ultimately wound up with a 10 down card for an 18.
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February 6th, 2018 at 7:48:44 AM permalink
A month ago I was playing craps and I guy on the table said he has seen me play many times and wanted to do what I was doing. I told him I was done for the day with a W... as rule number 1 is not to get too greedy. I told him I would be back the next day at the same time if he wanted to play.

Sure enough, I was there the next day at the same time... and so was he. Nice guy. We were cool. He asked me if I would mind if he played the same bets as me. I told him he has his free will do do whatever he likes... but Im not responsible for your win or your loss.. just do what you want.

First run around the table was beautiful. I hit 1 to 2 numbers on each shooter and went off. I stayed off one shooter because he played with the dice too long and tried to set them... well, he 7 out immediately. Good move. The guy next to me was actually betting big.. 500 per number. He did exactly what I was doing. He was up about 4500. Mind you, if he had stayed on every shooter without going off, he would have been broke quick... but we were up money.

I told him that I was leaving with the W and tomorrow is another day. He started getting greedy and lost all discipline and kept playing.... and not going off after a couple numbers. I stood and watched... I tried to tell him not to lose discipline.. he just kept playing and never went off....Needless to say, he lost everything very quickly. What a Fu$%ing loser! Sad.
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February 6th, 2018 at 11:41:22 AM permalink
Quote: WatchMeWin

... as rule number 1 is not to get too greedy.

(Jeff Foxworthy voice) IF rule #1 of your betting system is "not to get too greedy".... youuuuuuuuuu might not be an AP.
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