Blackjack Dealers and thier pit bosses
January 5th, 2012 at 1:34:52 PM
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How come everytime I decide to raise my bet at a blackjack table, the dealer yells out something to the effect of "check raise" or gets the attention of the boss or makes some sort of scene? Is this supposed to intimidate me, am I doing something suspicious?
January 5th, 2012 at 1:43:22 PM
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How much are you raising it?
If you change from less than $100 to $100 or more, the dealer will announce it. Typically, it's to alert the supervisor about the change, both to properly record the play for comp purposes, as well as to possibly flag you as a card counter.
If you change from less than $100 to $100 or more, the dealer will announce it. Typically, it's to alert the supervisor about the change, both to properly record the play for comp purposes, as well as to possibly flag you as a card counter.
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January 5th, 2012 at 2:18:34 PM
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Quote: awakefield1983Is this supposed to intimidate me, am I doing something suspicious?
If you watch other players at BJ, most of them either
flat bet, or slightly raise or lower their bets at times.
When you're betting a green chip for 6 hands and
all off a sudden bet a black, the pit wants to know
why. What do you know that the other players don't?
Are you a counter or just an erratic bettor? If you
were in their shoes, wouldn't you want to know?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 5th, 2012 at 2:21:03 PM
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Quote: awakefield1983How come everytime I decide to raise my bet at a blackjack table, the dealer yells out something to the effect of "check raise" or gets the attention of the boss or makes some sort of scene? Is this supposed to intimidate me, am I doing something suspicious?
You may be doing something suspicious, in the sense that a large bet level adjustment is the tip off to a card-counter, a persona non-grata in the table games pit.
Dealers are required to make this call on any big bet raise, especially on a Blackjack game. No, it is not supposed to offend you or anyone else, it's just normal game protection. They are just doing their job, and no one cares if some guy on table 'x' is personally offended by such a routine table games function, so neither should you care. So, don't ever be offended or surprised by it, it's just business operations as usual in the pit.
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January 5th, 2012 at 2:50:32 PM
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Quote: Paigowdanit's just normal game protection.
I love that term, 'game protection'. Its means
the casino is protecting its interests from us,
the players, and from cheating casino personnel.
They're protecting their games, mostly from
themselves.
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January 5th, 2012 at 2:52:43 PM
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They are protecting their games, and their income, - from all threats - "foreign and domestic," so to speak. We proudly salute.....
actually, most threats are external, but the internal threats are in some ways easier to catch, some of it up front and in our faces.
actually, most threats are external, but the internal threats are in some ways easier to catch, some of it up front and in our faces.
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January 5th, 2012 at 3:02:01 PM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
January 5th, 2012 at 3:40:14 PM
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I don't know and neither does the dealer know, so they simply follow procedures to call it out and that makes it the supervisor's concern to see if they think you are suddenly raising your bet to take advantage of a favorable deck that you've been counting. They call it out every time. It can just be your whim, but they want to hear the dealer say it each time. Often the suits don't really care, but if they happen to see that you are winning those increased bets they way want to watch you a bit closer or play back the tape and count down the shoe to see if you did it at a favorable count or not.Quote: awakefield1983am I doing something suspicious?
In short, no need to worry.
January 7th, 2012 at 4:20:46 PM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
January 7th, 2012 at 5:03:03 PM
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Quote: PaigowdanDealers are required to make this call on any big bet raise, especially on a Blackjack game.
Do the pit bosses actually hear such calls? Do they take them into account if they do?
Just about every casino where I buy in for $100, the dealer calls "changing one large!" it reminds me how in the office we call out "Don't print on the HP copier!" or "Letterhead sheets on the color printer!" Half the time the rest of the department doesn't even pay attention.
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January 7th, 2012 at 5:31:59 PM
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Yeah I thought it was always less about worrying about card counters and more to announce it so you don't try to say "WAIT I only meant to bet $25!" They have recorded verbally that the bet has been made. Similar to "Hitting a 17!" or "Splitting 10s!"
Also not really about keeping track of the chips at that point, because it's already out of the rack if it's in the player's hands when they are betting it. But if it wins, then they'll say "Black Out!" for the purpose of keeping track of the rack when the dealer pays out.
Also not really about keeping track of the chips at that point, because it's already out of the rack if it's in the player's hands when they are betting it. But if it wins, then they'll say "Black Out!" for the purpose of keeping track of the rack when the dealer pays out.
January 7th, 2012 at 5:48:02 PM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
January 16th, 2012 at 6:02:19 PM
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Calling "checks play" or "black action" is a procedure most casinos force upon their dealers so the bosses who care can sweat the money and make players feel uncomfortable. The frequency of the calls and the degree to which the pit pays attention will vary, depending on the sweat level of the casino or the pit boss on duty.
The procedure is despised by many players, and I cannot think of a time I've ever come across a player who appreciates the procedure. In addition to alerting the pit, it also alerts any unsavory characters wandering through the casino as to which players are putting out the big bets.
- Don
The procedure is despised by many players, and I cannot think of a time I've ever come across a player who appreciates the procedure. In addition to alerting the pit, it also alerts any unsavory characters wandering through the casino as to which players are putting out the big bets.
- Don
