How effective is Golden Touch Speed Count really?

I am taking the time to learn the Golden Touch Speed Count method of card counting but I realise that it isnt as powerful as other counting systems. Is it worth learning and what is the relative effectivness compared to other systems? Thanks in advance :)

What is it?

I think it is worth learning. I have used it and it is very easy to use and learn. It may not be as precise as some of the others but that is more than offset by its ease of use. You would have to be a perfect basic strategy player along with knowledge of exceptions ( multi card hands because basic strategy only addresses your first two cards not the the composition of those hands) for you to notice the difference between that and a more precise method of counting. It works for me.

Quote: MrRalph

I think it is worth learning. I have used it and it is very easy to use and learn. It may not be as precise as some of the others but that is more than offset by its ease of use. You would have to be a perfect basic strategy player along with knowledge of exceptions ( multi card hands because basic strategy only addresses your first two cards not the the composition of those hands) for you to notice the difference between that and a more precise method of counting. It works for me.

This statement is simply wrong.

Golden Touch is marginally easier to learn than a simple level 1 unbalanced count like KO. However it performs vastly worse. Do some searching.

Contrary to what many people think, I have never used it nor analyzed it. I will say that after an experience with that game I am very slow to give anything that could be construed as a recommendation.

The consensus of many experts is that the KO is about as easy to use, and more powerful.

I completely agree.

Quote: Wizard

Contrary to what many people think, I have never used it nor analyzed it. I will say that after an experience with that game I am very slow to give anything that could be construed as a recommendation.

The consensus of many experts is that the KO is about as easy to use, and more powerful.

But that's just it--we are not "experts" and all that means in terms of time devoted to learning systems, etc. I believe any objective individual would admit that a system learned in an hour (by a non-"expert"!) and that can be practiced the same day in a casino would have to be *substantially* easier than KO.

Those interested in may want to look at the articles about the Easy OPP system available on Arnold Snyder's site. OPP is the same system as Speed Count. Arnold must have seen something in the system....
--Joe

I just joined and posted my results here: speed count here