Online Single Deck Blackjack, multihands EV+??

Helo people!

I couldn't find the answer to my question on the Wizard of Odds's website so i post it here in the hope of finding an answer .. so here it is!

I started playing blackjack in some online casinos a few weeks ago and i found this pretty good game:

- Single Deck
- Dealer Stands soft 17
- Double down 10-11
- Dealer peeks for blackjack (full peak)
- Split to 4 hands
- Split aces once (no draw)
- Late Surrender (even after split)
- 7 Cards Charlie is auto-win
- Multihand (up to 3 hands)

According to the Wizard of Odds's rule variations, this game has a small, tiny house edge of 0.05% (correct me if im wrong)


Here is what i would do:

Even if the deck is shuffled after every hand, the multihand feature can still allow us to count card as we can see 7 cards at the start of every hand (3 hands + dealer's upface card) + even more if we hit or split some of them. What i though about is combining the high/low card counting method, the 18 illustrious and the fab 4 surrenders to gain an advantage over the house, plus we could also spread the bets like this: 1st hand 1 unit, 2nd hand 2 units, 3rd hand 4 units (since the count is more accurate on the last hand, i would bet harder on it)

So my question is, does this can enable us to overcome the tiny 0.05% house edge? if so, by how much (let's say assuming flat betting)? i can't find any websites that gives the % player edge using the 18 illustrious and/or 4 fab surrenders using flat bets. I am also not sure if spreading my bets like mentioned above would change anything.

Thanks for the answers!

Phil

Seeing the 7 cards would only minimally affect hitting or standing on a hand. And I do mean minimally!

Counter make their profit by varying the amount bet. Betting the minimum when the deck is neutral or negative, increasing the amount bet when the deck is positive. The increased bet amount is influenced by the counters bankroll and ability to avoid detection
by Sheriff Face or his Deputy Dan.

You have already placed your bet before you can get a count. The 4th hand will be negative or neutral 2/3 of the time and positive 1/3 of the time. But you will have a big bet all 3 times.

P.S. I shot the Sheriff, But I did not shoot the deputy.

Fortunately I am a soulless robot. Shoot me and another me appears. Like Mr. Smith in "The Matrix", I am everywhere.

buzz pretty much nailed it. Depending on what you're looking to do, you may not find it with your idea. If you think you're going to break the bank, it's can't happen for the reasons buzz mentioned. While betting big on the 4th hand makes sense as you'll have a more acurate count, what if the count winds up being unfavorable? Or favorable, but not quite as favorable as hoped? Counting works in live games because you have a count BEFORE your hand is dealt, and you can vary your bets accordingly. In your example, you don't. I'm not a math guy, but I would imagine that after a skillion trials, your 1-2-3-4 wagers would come out to a 0.05% disadvantage.

I don't see why the Il-18 and Fab-4 couldn't be used. If the count is such that one of those would apply on any of your 4 hands, then I'd imagine that using them would help chip away at that 0.05%. But the rate at which these instances would apply make me think the net effect would be very slight indeed. The word "negligible" comes to mind.

Gotta agree with Buzz. The fact that you see more cards when you get to the third hand would only help you in very specific situations when a certain set of cards come out. For example, you might borderline not double a 9 on a 4 when you see a bunch of 10s come out. This could be helpful. But this situation won't happen enough I think to overcome the .05%.

ohh well i though that the 18 illustrious would give me a greater advantage but well it's not the case hehh .. anyway i made a mistake in the rules and it's no double after split .. so i can't overcome that for sure now

Thanks for the reply though