BJ in Cali Cardrooms.

What is the rule if a dealer skips a player during the game? My situation is all players were dealt two cards, then the dealer skipped the player in front of me, even though she motioned for a hit. All the other players acknowledged that she did. The dealer had already dealt my next card which gave me 19 and a win.
Well, the pit boss came over and burned my card. Then dealt the player that was skipped another card and gave me the option to hit or stand. I still wanted the card they had taken from me. So i surrendered 1/2 my bet . What is the rule for this ? Should cardrooms have house rules posted in view of their customers ?

This was posted by Patti in a blog. I corrected it out of habit. I have an adult daughter who never uses periods or commas too.
Can anybody help. Dan might know, but it's nap time for him. And Face is probably bust shining his badge. And Wiz is on vacation.

at ca card rooms you are at the mercy of the house since there are really no official standards

Strange that the pit boss would burn the card instead of backing it up to the correct position.

What would the outcome have been if she had taken the hit?

In most cardrooms, the manager has the right to make decisions in the "best interest of the game", so I don't think she had any "Hoyle rule" to dispute his decision.

In Vegas I think they would burn the card in question, give everyone a chance to opt out of the hand and pull their bet back, then continue to play out the hand among everyone who chose to stay in, starting with the skipped player, if she chose to stay in.

Another situation that comes up is a player waving off a hand but receiving a card. That card is not burned but is the next card to be played. I've been encouraged by the pit boss to double my hard 14 after seeing the next card was a 7 - like I wasn't going to anyway. (Please don't start another cheating thread.) There's usually not an opt out in this case, since the players have more information than usual and can adjust accordingly.

Patti, backing up the cards is strictly forbidden in many of the casinos that I'm familiar with.

Quote: benbakdoff

Another situation that comes up is a player waving off a hand but receiving a card. That card is not burned but is the next card to be played.

I think some places would also burn the unwanted card and then give everyone a chance to opt out of the hand. Since Dan is the dealer here perhaps he can shed some light on this.

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Patti, backing up the cards is strictly forbidden in many of the casinos that I'm familiar with.

I'm curious why, if the oversight was only one card, would it not be backed up? This happens frequently in poker, and the first attempted correction is to back the card up to the correct recipient.

Somebody please wake up Dan from his nap, Be gentle, he has been known to come out of a deep sleep swinging.
( nightmares about counters, no doubt ) Tell him his expertise is needed in the forum

Quote: Wizard

I think some places would also burn the unwanted card and then give everyone a chance to opt out of the hand. Since Dan is the dealer here perhaps he can shed some light on this.

Technically, dealers may never go "backwards," - or to present a card against the forward dealing action, or motion, of a game. And always under the review of a floor supervisor.
In other words, if card "x" if presented to a player after a given position, it may never be "retro-actively" dealt back to an earlier hand position, regardless of player protest or any claims that "that is the card I should have gotten," as he was already "hit or stood."

In some cases an exposed card may be offered to a later, or more forward position, - but on the option of the later position player's choice. In that case, a player may take that card, or otherwise a card is burned, where the even later position must "hit or stand" - but with the option of a later push if the hand is a later loss.

In almost most cases:
1. the winning players of this outcome are indeed paid, and
2. the losing players are "pushed," - with no loss, and
3. the deck is immediately reshuffled, to start a new deal "from scratch."

Edit: no nightmares about card counters. I pretty much ONLY deal dice, Pai Gow Poker, Three card Poker, Deuces Wild Poker, other poker "carnival" pokers games or Blackjack from a CSM machine, at this point, almost always as part of a relief string if BJ is a part of it. Craps and Poker games are pretty much all I see at this point. Blackjack games are needed for the break-in dealers, or primarily high-stakes Blackjack dealers.

That's why Dan is the man.

Thanks Dan!