StevenBlack
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May 22nd, 2011 at 10:25:52 PM permalink
A 1990 “Blackjack Forum” article by Arnold Snyder “BLACKJACK SHUFFLE-TRACKING: RUFFLED BY THE (NON-RANDOM) SHUFFLE” states that “the difference between well-shuffled cards and unshuffled cards is that if the cards are not shuffled, high cards tend to follow high cards, and low cards tend to follow low cards." Snyder goes on to say that this leads to a player bias: “this player bias appears to be caused by the clumping of high cards with high cards and low cards with low cards.” But wait a minute: I thought clumps of low cards favored the dealer, not the player.

1) Can someone help me understand why clumping necessarily favors the player or why any advantage doesn’t cancel out (i.e., high cards favoring the player cancels out any advantage the player might have because low cards favor the dealer.)?

2) If the above is true (clumping only favors the player) and the player is playing a game of no hole-card blackjack, would this change affect the clumping effect? In other words, would the delay in the dealer receiving her second card represent an interruption in a clump and thereby change (for the better or worse) the advantage for the player?
MrCasinoGames
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May 23rd, 2011 at 1:04:28 AM permalink
Clumping of Cards ((NON-RANDOM) SHUFFLE) favors the player: if the player is using SHUFFLE-TRACKING or ACE-TRACHING.
Because the player is using Shuffle tracking, he will know where the high cards are.
So he can use it to his advantage.
eg, Cut the high cards to the front of the deck and play the first few hands, with a lots of high cards (High+ count).
(Clumping of Cards) is also very useful for Ace-Tracking Player too.
There is other benefits as well, which I will not go into details.

Clumping of Cards (NON-RANDOM) SHUFFLE) doesn't favors the player: if player is using BASIC-STRATEGY or CARD-COUNTING.
Specially when low cards follow low cards.
eg, you get two low cards, you will make more 9,10 or 11 and the dealer get a low card.
You will double, get a low card , and have to stay with a low point.
Dealer get a few more low card and makes a point.

I know this, because it was what I do (SHUFFLE-TRACKING and ACE-TRACHING) in the UK 25 years ago.
Now I am a casino games inventor Casino Holdem® Poker, Roulette Link-Bets®...
Stephen Au-Yeung (Legend of New Table Games®) NewTableGames.com
FleaStiff
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May 23rd, 2011 at 2:30:35 AM permalink
Prior knowledge of such clumping might be of assistance but I don't see how a non-random deck helps anyone all that much.
WizardofEngland
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May 23rd, 2011 at 2:56:44 AM permalink
I believe I have seen a computer program that is able to track 6 decks.
Its practical use is not great, as you would need to input each card as you see it, and note how the dealer collects the cards before transferring them to discard tray. Also how the dealer shuffles. Luckily most dealers are trainned to shuffle one way, and they nearly always replicate the same shuffle. But the concept is very real.
http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/10042-woes-black-sheep-game-ii/#post151727
MrCasinoGames
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May 23rd, 2011 at 3:01:03 AM permalink
FleaStiff

It is the clumping of cards and not the non-random deck that halp the SHUFFLE-TRACKERS and ACE-TRACKERS, and it is the clumping of High-Cards that are most useful to the TRACKERS.

It is the clumping of Low-Cards that kills the BASIC-STRATEGY PLAYERS and the CARD-COUNTERS.
Stephen Au-Yeung (Legend of New Table Games®) NewTableGames.com
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