Surrender or Split 8s vs Ace?
November 30th, 2009 at 5:56:56 AM
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I've looked for, but couldn't find any information stating if surrendering a pair of eights is better than splitting when the dealer has an Ace.
When surrendering is offered, is it better than splitting 8s?
If so, what about when the dealer is showing a Ten?
Thanks.
When surrendering is offered, is it better than splitting 8s?
If so, what about when the dealer is showing a Ten?
Thanks.
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November 30th, 2009 at 6:57:03 AM
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The Wizard's strategy is to split them (assuming 4-8 decks & dealer stands on soft 17).
November 30th, 2009 at 10:59:24 AM
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To clarify further, you will always split 8s except in two rule sets:
Double-deck, hit soft 17: Surrender vs A if allowed, else split
Any decks, European no-hole card rule: Hit vs 10 or A (or presumably surrender if offered, although this is rare on these games)
Double-deck, hit soft 17: Surrender vs A if allowed, else split
Any decks, European no-hole card rule: Hit vs 10 or A (or presumably surrender if offered, although this is rare on these games)
January 18th, 2010 at 1:32:59 PM
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If you have a pair of 8's against a dealer 10 (6 deck shoe)
The expected value are:
Stand -0.536853
Hit -0.535361
Split -0.486276 with No Double After Split allowed
Split -0.475385 when Double After Split allowed
Surrender -0.500 with no variation
Splitting is the best option against a 10 (although it is not much better than surrender).
In the case of pairs of 8's against an Ace it depends on whether the dealer hits a soft 17. If he does hit a soft 17 then the preferred choice is to surrender. If he stands the preferred choice is to split.
I have never actually seen surrender. It's not a very popular rule. I figure it slows the game down, and most players have a pretty good idea when they should use it. They may not know it perfectly, but they rarely make a really stupid mistake. It's a double negative for the casino.
The expected value are:
Stand -0.536853
Hit -0.535361
Split -0.486276 with No Double After Split allowed
Split -0.475385 when Double After Split allowed
Surrender -0.500 with no variation
Splitting is the best option against a 10 (although it is not much better than surrender).
In the case of pairs of 8's against an Ace it depends on whether the dealer hits a soft 17. If he does hit a soft 17 then the preferred choice is to surrender. If he stands the preferred choice is to split.
I have never actually seen surrender. It's not a very popular rule. I figure it slows the game down, and most players have a pretty good idea when they should use it. They may not know it perfectly, but they rarely make a really stupid mistake. It's a double negative for the casino.
