House edge needed please
January 18th, 2011 at 7:49:17 AM
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A friend of mine likes to play a Gameking version of video blackjack at the bar. It is stand 17 but does not allow double down and no splits and BJ pays even money. He said it doesn't make much different on the odds. I am thinking it' s got to have a -5% edge. Does anyone know how to figure out the house edge on this bad game?
January 18th, 2011 at 7:54:44 AM
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Wiz's complete list of rules affecting house edge
The even money is a -2.27% house edge itself. While not listed, I believe no doubling any cards adds about another -.8% to the house edge right there.
I've never seen not allowing splits at all either. I think your 5% edge is probably pretty close.
If you have the shufflemaster electronic blackjack machines, those are the ones to play....
-B
The even money is a -2.27% house edge itself. While not listed, I believe no doubling any cards adds about another -.8% to the house edge right there.
I've never seen not allowing splits at all either. I think your 5% edge is probably pretty close.
If you have the shufflemaster electronic blackjack machines, those are the ones to play....
-B
January 18th, 2011 at 8:06:36 AM
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Quote: gambit21A friend of mine likes to play a Gameking version of video blackjack at the bar.
Does anyone know how to figure out the house edge on this bad game?
Is it a bad game because all such video blackjack games on bar-tops are worse than table black jack or is this particular video game worse than the various other video blackjack games commonly found in bars?
January 18th, 2011 at 8:10:50 AM
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Wongs basic blackjack list no splitting as -.4. so if your numbers are correct. We are talking about -3.5%.
January 18th, 2011 at 8:19:54 AM
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Proper doubling down is worth about 1.5% according to Blackjack Bluebook II by Fred Renzy.
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January 18th, 2011 at 8:29:34 AM
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thanks miplet
January 18th, 2011 at 8:46:39 AM
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So, .4+1.5+2.27+about .6? That's getting pretty close to that 5% ballpark. If your friend doesn't think that 1:1 BJ pays, no splits, and no doubles affect the EV, you should probably take the opposite side of any action that he's willing to give:-)
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January 18th, 2011 at 9:28:09 AM
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4.6756352057706% infinite deck using Wizards infinite deck spreadsheet I just changed bj pays=1 and the ev's of doubling and splitting to -2 so the basic strategy for that game won't split or double.
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January 18th, 2011 at 1:19:15 PM
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To answer your question: every single e-BJ machine I've seen has been worse than a corresponding table game. They prey on idiots like your friend :).
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