K7 loses to AAAAAAAA
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................ as I've said many times to other amazing feats, "Only the dealer can do that"
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[7 aces would be soft 17]
Quote: odiousgambitPlus, that's what the player gets for playing a "dealer hits soft 17" game
[7 aces would be soft 17]
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Well, I thought Canterbury Park used to have "Blackjack pays 3 to 2" printed on the felt, and I find that absence more concerning.
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DJTeddyBear,
Sadly, it was a double deck game.
Even worse is that four of the Aces are hearts 😉
Dog Hand
P = (24/312)*(23/311)*(22/310)*(21/309)*(20/308)*(19/307)*(18/306)*(17/305)
P = 3.615xe^-10... ie P = .0000000003615, or about 1 in 2.75 BILLION.
So... fake picture? Or we believing the 2.75 billion? TBH the most likely odds is the casino cheating and stacking aces together, which has been shown to mathematically F the player hard.
Quote: RomesAm I the only one curious what the actual odds are of pulling 8 aces in a row? Assuming 6D...
P = (24/312)*(23/311)*(22/310)*(21/309)*(20/308)*(19/307)*(18/306)*(17/305)
P = 3.615xe^-10... ie P = .0000000003615, or about 1 in 2.75 BILLION.
So... fake picture? Or we believing the 2.75 billion? TBH the most likely odds is the casino cheating and stacking aces together, which has been shown to mathematically F the player hard.
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I always like to remember that if this actually happened then someone would almost certainly take a picture and we would probably hear about it. So now consider how many casinos there are in the US, and how many hands of blackjack (with H17 rules) have been dealt over, say, the past 30 years. It would require maybe 5,000 hands of blackjack to be dealt per casino per day to reach 2.75 billion hands. That seems a bit high to me but not extraordinarily improbable.
Your notion of casinos stacking aces together is insightful and kind of alarming.
Quote: acesideI had a super Royal Flush hand — an A-K-Q-J-10-9 flush within the first six cards at an Ultimate Hold’em table. I did take a picture of that hand with myself. What are the odds of that happening.
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P = (4/52)*(1/51)*(1/50)*(1/49)*(1/48)*(1/47) = 2.7288602e-10
P = .00000000027, or about 1 in 3.5 billion.
Again, not saying it's not possible... but what's more "probable." I live in the world of probabilities. I've seen first hand and heard through trusted sources about casinos cheating, A LOT. Yes, I've had it done to me personally. Yes I've been at an indian reservation where the count went +20 3 shoes in a row and I asked them to spread the cards and they refused. Yes, that SAME CASINO later had a lawsuit about removing 10's and aces from their decks. Probably 10+ reputable lawsuit cases in just my short 6ish year pro career. And no, that doesn't cover ANY of the "t's and c's" we just freeze/steal your money. Or refusing to cash out at a casino cage. Or telling players they "must" have papers on them or it's illegal. Or telling people card counting (i.e. using your brain) is illegal. Hell, go watch a youtube video of any card counter and you'll see casinos do tons of illegal things, usually per video.
So yeah, in terms of probabilistic, I'm going with the casino cheated.
Quote: RomesQuote: acesideI had a super Royal Flush hand — an A-K-Q-J-10-9 flush within the first six cards at an Ultimate Hold’em table. I did take a picture of that hand with myself. What are the odds of that happening.
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P = (4/52)*(1/51)*(1/50)*(1/49)*(1/48)*(1/47) = 2.7288602e-10
P = .00000000027, or about 1 in 3.5 billion.
Again, not saying it's not possible... but what's more "probable." I live in the world of probabilities. I've seen first hand and heard through trusted sources about casinos cheating, A LOT. Yes, I've had it done to me personally. Yes I've been at an indian reservation where the count went +20 3 shoes in a row and I asked them to spread the cards and they refused. Yes, that SAME CASINO later had a lawsuit about removing 10's and aces from their decks. Probably 10+ reputable lawsuit cases in just my short 6ish year pro career. And no, that doesn't cover ANY of the "t's and c's" we just freeze/steal your money. Or refusing to cash out at a casino cage. Or telling players they "must" have papers on them or it's illegal. Or telling people card counting (i.e. using your brain) is illegal. Hell, go watch a youtube video of any card counter and you'll see casinos do tons of illegal things, usually per video.
So yeah, in terms of probabilistic, I'm going with the casino cheated.
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Have you estimated how many rounds of blackjack have been dealt in the last fifty years? This hand would have had to have been dealt to a dealer and its a safe assumption that every round has been recorded. With thousands of casinos dealing BJ 24/7 for the last fifty years ,are they approaching a billion hands? If you play enough rounds, one in a billion chances are bound to pop up.
The odds of me getting 4 straight blackjacks are really high. The odds of that happens at the very end of a shoe in a super high count are not nearly as high.
If you've ever had a running count of +/-30 then it isn't a stretch to imagine a scenario with maybe 2-4 aces coming out in the first 3 decks therefore you have 20-22 aces remaining in the last 3 decks thus getting you to a situation in which this set up is more likely. Albeit still pretty incredible of course. But if we are going to talk about how truly unlikely this is we should consider fluctuating deck compositions.
Quote: avianrandyDon't forget this was a double deck game so only 8 aces in the shoe
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I believe a full shoe has at least 16 aces.
I'm just waking up but how can their be 4 ace of hearts if this is a double deck game?Quote: DogHandQuote: DJTeddyBearSeen on X / Twitter:
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DJTeddyBear,
Sadly, it was a double deck game.
Even worse is that four of the Aces are hearts 😉
Dog Hand
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A-K-Q-J-10-9 flush:
4 / C(52,6) = 4/2.035852 E+7= 1.965 E-7
Therefore. The odds are once in every 5,090,000 hands.
Quote: heatmapSo im always prodding at chatgpt. Seeing how it improves, if it ever will.
Today i wanted to know Unique Blackjack Combinations By Hand Total And Number Of Cards based on 6 and 8 deck amounts.
This is my prompt and its repsonsesQuote: heatmapin a six - eight deck blackjack game list all of the combinations of cards that will make 21 up to a 10 card hand
since my query was essentially garbage to the ai it took some talking to get to a more narrow understanding and it eventually got what i wanted... i thinkQuote:Here's the updated chart reflecting realistic card limits from 6 decks (e.g., only 24 Aces and 96 Tens available). The counts are now based on valid combinations that could physically be dealt within that constraint. Let me know if you want the same for 8 decks or a specific total exported.
6 deck
8 deck
What im seeing is that, its way easier to get 21 the higher number of cards in 6 and 8 decks
does 98 combinations of 6 card 21s sound right? This seems like a hallucination to me because the 8 and 6 deck amounts are the same in each picture given
chatgpt insists...Quote: heatmapsomething seems off about your 6 and 8 deck charts in the sense that 98 combinations of 6 card hands that equal 21 does not seem possible for both
Quote:ChatGPT said:
You're right to question it — it does seem surprising that both the 6-deck and 8-deck environments yield exactly 98 unique 6-card combinations that total 21.
But here's why it's actually possible:
The limit on card counts (e.g., 24 of each value in 6 decks vs 32 in 8 decks) only begins to matter when a combination requires more instances of a value than exist in the shoe.
A 6-card hand has relatively low demand on card count variety. In nearly all valid combinations of 6 cards totaling 21, no single card value is used more than 4 or 5 times — well below both decks' limits.
So in this case:
All 98 valid 6-card combinations that sum to 21 can be formed using only what's available in a 6-deck shoe.
Increasing to 8 decks doesn’t introduce new combinations — it just provides more ways to realize them, which we are not counting (we count only unique value sets, not permutations or frequency of appearance).
If you'd like, I can list the 98 combinations for inspection — or highlight which hand sizes start to diverge between deck sizes.
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I would definitely not play hereQuote: avianrandyI'm just waking up but how can their be 4 ace of hearts if this is a double deck game?Quote: DogHandQuote: DJTeddyBearSeen on X / Twitter:
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DJTeddyBear,
Sadly, it was a double deck game.
Even worse is that four of the Aces are hearts 😉
Dog Hand
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If it is double deck and 4 ace of hearts came out in one hand I would like to see what the decks are composed of. Typically double deck should have 2 ace of hearts. I would ask them to spread the cards for me
