single deck 6 card charlie
single deck
player BJ pays 3:2
dealer peeks for blackjack
dealer hits soft 17
double down hard 10-11
double after split
split aces receive one card only
late surrender except against dealer ace
dealer stands on 6 cards
player wins on 6 cards totaling 21 or less
I found the Wizard's Charlie strategy, which uses infinite deck, but I suspect the strategy will be different for single deck. If I have 4 or 5 cards totaling 12-16 vs a dealer low card, hitting again in single deck is less likely to result in another one or two small cards since I've already used several small cards.
Any ideas? Thanks.
Also, a 6-card hand is too rare to consider.
Quote: acesideWhat does this mean, dealer stands on 6 cards? Any hand totaling of 21 or less? This hand of 2 x4 + 3 x 2=14 is stand for dealer?
Also, a 6-card hand is too rare to consider.
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On VBJ I've had a dealer stop at six cards even though he was not at 17. In well over 100,000 hands, I can remember it happening twice. People didn't think a 16 vs 16 should be a push, but it can be.
BTW, I had a 6-card royal flush in the game of UTH. Just to let you know.
Quote: billryanMost VBJ machines I've seen are single deck, shuffled after each hand. I'm not talking about the multi-player versions.
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I've seen a number that are configured for single deck at higher denominations, and 6 deck at lower denominations.
Both settings are 2 for 1 ("even money") on natural, and shuffled every round.
Quote: billryanMost VBJ machines I've seen are single deck, shuffled after each hand. I'm not talking about the multi-player versions.
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I have seen many IGT VBJ that are Double deck as well as single, I was recently in Reno and played an
IGT that was single or double depending on Denomination. I believe the Casino Wizard machines claim
4decks.
Quote: billryanMost VBJ machines I've seen are single deck, shuffled after each hand. I'm not talking about the multi-player versions.
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I still need to ask this. It seems to me that even for a single deck VBJ machine, player has his own single deck to draw cards and dealer has her own single deck, so there is no card removal effect really. What I’m saying is, VBJ games can be treated as an infinite deck game. It really doesn’t matter if it is a single or multiple deck game. Right?
Quote: acesideQuote: billryanMost VBJ machines I've seen are single deck, shuffled after each hand. I'm not talking about the multi-player versions.
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I still need to ask this. It seems to me that even for a single deck VBJ machine, player has his own single deck to draw cards and dealer has her own single deck, so there is no card removal effect really. What I’m saying is, VBJ games can be treated as an infinite deck game. It really doesn’t matter if it is a single or multiple deck game. Right?
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I agree with you, but that doesn't mean we are right.
Quote: acesideQuote: billryanMost VBJ machines I've seen are single deck, shuffled after each hand. I'm not talking about the multi-player versions.
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I still need to ask this. It seems to me that even for a single deck VBJ machine, player has his own single deck to draw cards and dealer has her own single deck, so there is no card removal effect really. What I’m saying is, VBJ games can be treated as an infinite deck game. It really doesn’t matter if it is a single or multiple deck game. Right?
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The rules screens I've seen say that the usual single deck VBJ is all dealt from one deck, for player hands, dealer hands, and hit cards.
CD strategy should help.
Even a shuffled every hand game is not quite infinite deck, as the hit cards have different probabilities than the first card as the deck dwindles.
As you can see, when the player gets 6 cards totaling 21 or less, the player wins automatically. The dealer does not draw any cards.
The dealer 6 card rule can be good or bad for the player. In this case, when the dealer got 6 cards and stopped at 16, I won because I stood on 17. It could have gone the other way, where I stood on a lower total and then I would want the dealer to draw another card and possibly bust.
The rules say nothing about re-splitting, so I suspected that re-splitting is not allowed. When I got a split and then another card of the same rank, the split button is grayed out. As you can see, I got all three 3's of the single deck! I don't remember if I won this hand.
Sounds to me like someone was doing the PRA calcs and wanted to keep it manageable.
Quote: gordonm888No resplitting and stop dealing to player and dealer hands after six cards are dealt?
Sounds to me like someone was doing the PRA calcs and wanted to keep it manageable.
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Besides house edge, I think the no re-splitting and 6 card rule is to make it easier to program the thing to display cards. As you can see from the screen pictures, the cards are big, and trying to put four player hands on the screen with an unlimited number of cards would require more work to program the display.
According to my calculations, the house edge is less than 0.3%. I'm still working on getting an exact figure for perfect and basic strategy.
Quote: ssho88suppose player total 14(less than 6 cards), STAND, dealer 6 card total 15, STAND, who is the winner ?
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Good question. From what I've read I assume that dealer wins; but I'd like to hear whether others confirm that.
Quote: gordonm888Quote: ssho88suppose player total 14(less than 6 cards), STAND, dealer 6 card total 15, STAND, who is the winner ?
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Good question. From what I've read I assume that dealer wins; but I'd like to hear whether others confirm that.
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I would assume dealer wins because the help screen says "player wins on 6 cards totaling 21 or less" and it says "dealer draws to 17 or 6 cards totaling 21 or less". It doesn't say "player wins if dealer draws 6 cards".
Quote: ssho88Another scenario, suppose player total 16(less than six cards), STAND, dealer 6 card total 14, STAND, who wins ?
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player
I posted a screenshot of a similar hand where I stood on 17 and the dealer drew 6 cards totaling 16.
Quote: KevinAAQuote: ssho88Another scenario, suppose player total 16(less than six cards), STAND, dealer 6 card total 14, STAND, who wins ?
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player
I posted a screenshot of a similar hand where I stood on 17 and the dealer drew 6 cards totaling 16.
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For my case, Player total is 16 vs dealer total 14(6cards), the player total is not 17.
1) Player total 14(less than 6 cards), STAND, dealer 6 card total 15, STAND, 14 vs 15, who wins ?
2) Player total 16(less than 6 cards), STAND, dealer 6 card total 14, STAND, 16 vs 14, who wins ?
Quote: ssho88For my case, Player total is 16 vs dealer total 14(6cards), the player total is not 17.
1) Player total 14(less than 6 cards), STAND, dealer 6 card total 15, STAND, 14 vs 15, who wins ?
2) Player total 16(less than 6 cards), STAND, dealer 6 card total 14, STAND, 16 vs 14, who wins ?
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It doesn't matter whether player or dealer have less than 17 or 17+. If neither bust, whoever has the higher score wins.
Quote: KevinAAQuote: ssho88For my case, Player total is 16 vs dealer total 14(6cards), the player total is not 17.
1) Player total 14(less than 6 cards), STAND, dealer 6 card total 15, STAND, 14 vs 15, who wins ?
2) Player total 16(less than 6 cards), STAND, dealer 6 card total 14, STAND, 16 vs 14, who wins ?
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It doesn't matter whether player or dealer have less than 17 or 17+. If neither bust, whoever has the higher score wins.
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I don't believe that is correct The player wins when the dealer has less than 17, no matter what the player has.
Quote: billryanQuote: KevinAAQuote: ssho88For my case, Player total is 16 vs dealer total 14(6cards), the player total is not 17.
1) Player total 14(less than 6 cards), STAND, dealer 6 card total 15, STAND, 14 vs 15, who wins ?
2) Player total 16(less than 6 cards), STAND, dealer 6 card total 14, STAND, 16 vs 14, who wins ?
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It doesn't matter whether player or dealer have less than 17 or 17+. If neither bust, whoever has the higher score wins.
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I don't believe that is correct The player wins when the dealer has less than 17, no matter what the player has.
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Well, this is clear as mud. billryan says the non-busting player wins when dealer has a six-card stiff hand and KevinAA says the higher hand wins, such as the dealer 16 in situation #2, above.
Are we sure that KevinAA is discussing the exact same game that billryan played some time ago? How do we resolve this question?
