KevinAA
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March 14th, 2025 at 9:41:46 AM permalink
I found a video BJ game with the following rules:

single deck
player BJ pays 3:2
dealer peeks for blackjack
dealer hits soft 17
double down hard 10-11
double after split
split aces receive one card only
late surrender except against dealer ace
dealer stands on 6 cards
player wins on 6 cards totaling 21 or less

I found the Wizard's Charlie strategy, which uses infinite deck, but I suspect the strategy will be different for single deck. If I have 4 or 5 cards totaling 12-16 vs a dealer low card, hitting again in single deck is less likely to result in another one or two small cards since I've already used several small cards.

Any ideas? Thanks.
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March 15th, 2025 at 7:04:49 AM permalink
What does this mean, dealer stands on 6 cards? Any hand totaling of 21 or less? This hand of 2 x4 + 3 x 2=14 is stand for dealer?

Also, a 6-card hand is too rare to consider.
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March 15th, 2025 at 7:27:13 AM permalink
Quote: aceside

What does this mean, dealer stands on 6 cards? Any hand totaling of 21 or less? This hand of 2 x4 + 3 x 2=14 is stand for dealer?

Also, a 6-card hand is too rare to consider.
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On VBJ I've had a dealer stop at six cards even though he was not at 17. In well over 100,000 hands, I can remember it happening twice. People didn't think a 16 vs 16 should be a push, but it can be.
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March 15th, 2025 at 7:45:38 AM permalink
You probably played a 6-deck game. For a single deck game, a 6-card hand should be a lot rarer.

BTW, I had a 6-card royal flush in the game of UTH. Just to let you know.
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March 15th, 2025 at 2:44:46 PM permalink
Most VBJ machines I've seen are single deck, shuffled after each hand. I'm not talking about the multi-player versions.
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March 15th, 2025 at 3:11:39 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Most VBJ machines I've seen are single deck, shuffled after each hand. I'm not talking about the multi-player versions.
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I've seen a number that are configured for single deck at higher denominations, and 6 deck at lower denominations.
Both settings are 2 for 1 ("even money") on natural, and shuffled every round.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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March 15th, 2025 at 3:18:22 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Most VBJ machines I've seen are single deck, shuffled after each hand. I'm not talking about the multi-player versions.
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I have seen many IGT VBJ that are Double deck as well as single, I was recently in Reno and played an
IGT that was single or double depending on Denomination. I believe the Casino Wizard machines claim
4decks.
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March 15th, 2025 at 5:55:45 PM permalink
This is a 7-card Charlie without a single Ace! I would have hit again, except that I had already reached the 2x target of 16. Basic Bingo Blackjack strategy is to stand on 16 in this case.
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March 16th, 2025 at 8:36:54 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

Most VBJ machines I've seen are single deck, shuffled after each hand. I'm not talking about the multi-player versions.
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I still need to ask this. It seems to me that even for a single deck VBJ machine, player has his own single deck to draw cards and dealer has her own single deck, so there is no card removal effect really. What I’m saying is, VBJ games can be treated as an infinite deck game. It really doesn’t matter if it is a single or multiple deck game. Right?
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March 16th, 2025 at 8:57:14 AM permalink
Quote: aceside

Quote: billryan

Most VBJ machines I've seen are single deck, shuffled after each hand. I'm not talking about the multi-player versions.
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I still need to ask this. It seems to me that even for a single deck VBJ machine, player has his own single deck to draw cards and dealer has her own single deck, so there is no card removal effect really. What I’m saying is, VBJ games can be treated as an infinite deck game. It really doesn’t matter if it is a single or multiple deck game. Right?
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I agree with you, but that doesn't mean we are right.
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March 16th, 2025 at 9:04:12 AM permalink
Quote: aceside

Quote: billryan

Most VBJ machines I've seen are single deck, shuffled after each hand. I'm not talking about the multi-player versions.
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I still need to ask this. It seems to me that even for a single deck VBJ machine, player has his own single deck to draw cards and dealer has her own single deck, so there is no card removal effect really. What I’m saying is, VBJ games can be treated as an infinite deck game. It really doesn’t matter if it is a single or multiple deck game. Right?
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The rules screens I've seen say that the usual single deck VBJ is all dealt from one deck, for player hands, dealer hands, and hit cards.
CD strategy should help.

Even a shuffled every hand game is not quite infinite deck, as the hit cards have different probabilities than the first card as the deck dwindles.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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