billryan
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February 26th, 2025 at 7:36:47 AM permalink
I was going through some old BJ literature and it mentions that you should never split tens. That's for another discussion, but the article said that you have a 92% chance of winning with a two-card twenty. I don't think that is correct. Possibly, you have a 92% chance of not losing, but winning 92% seems high. You lose to any dealer BJ or 21 and push all 20s.
The article refers to two card totals of twenty, but I'm not sure why a two-card 20 is superior to a four card twenty.
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February 26th, 2025 at 8:13:09 AM permalink
In a 6-deck H17 game, if you don't take dealer blackjacks into account, you have a 92% chance of "not losing" with a 2-card 20, but about a 72.3% chance of "winning."

I am not taking dealer blackjacks into account as they are not relevant to the question, "Should you split 10s?".
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February 26th, 2025 at 8:26:08 AM permalink
For an infinite deck game, I just find that a player has about a 73.1% chance of winning a hand of 20, regardless of the number of cards.
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February 26th, 2025 at 9:08:51 AM permalink
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February 26th, 2025 at 11:04:29 AM permalink
There's a couple of female Canadian counters who love to split 10's when the count is high and they have higher bets out. That usually leads to a backoff a little later.
If you're playing a VBJ machine, split 10's all you want but only once.
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February 26th, 2025 at 11:53:38 AM permalink
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The article refers to two card totals of twenty, but I'm not sure why a two-card 20 is superior to a four card twenty.
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I am not aware of a table where the player can split a three or four card 20.

I remember a player split a pair of jacks, likely because of the count. The draws were also ten value. When asked if he wanted to resplit, he declined (the count had fallen just enough) with the comment "Who splits a 20?"
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February 26th, 2025 at 12:40:39 PM permalink
I'm not aware of any BS that splits 10s.
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February 26th, 2025 at 1:02:53 PM permalink
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I'm not aware of any BS that splits 10s.
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But the point of the article was to justify why you never split 10s, so it stands to reason that the article would only consider a count of 20 that is splittable . . .
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February 26th, 2025 at 1:20:39 PM permalink
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I'm not aware of any BS that splits 10s.
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But the point of the article was to justify why you never split 10s, so it stands to reason that the article would only consider a count of 20 that is splittable . . .
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The paragraph simply said that when you have 20, you have a 92% chance of winning, so stand pat. The fact that the author stated the odds of winning was 92% tells me all I need to know about him. All my BJ and gambling books are packed away so I couldn't find the exact number, which I estimagted was around 75%, not 92%. He could have said you will only lose 8% of the hands, but instead he stated you will win 92%.
A quick Google search turned up a few different sources that claim you will win 92% of the time. We live in an age of misinformation.
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February 26th, 2025 at 2:07:20 PM permalink
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I'm not aware of any BS that splits 10s.
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But the point of the article was to justify why you never split 10s, so it stands to reason that the article would only consider a count of 20 that is splittable . . .
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The paragraph simply said that when you have 20, you have a 92% chance of winning, so stand pat. The fact that the author stated the odds of winning was 92% tells me all I need to know about him. All my BJ and gambling books are packed away so I couldn't find the exact number, which I estimagted was around 75%, not 92%. He could have said you will only lose 8% of the hands, but instead he stated you will win 92%.
A quick Google search turned up a few different sources that claim you will win 92% of the time. We live in an age of misinformation.
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True about misinformation. But just to clear the air it is your OP that introduced the article focusing on two card 20s.
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February 26th, 2025 at 2:08:06 PM permalink
On a VBJ machine you win your money back on a push.
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