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January 4th, 2025 at 8:37:34 PM permalink
Counter makes big bets and gets quick back offs in LV.
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January 5th, 2025 at 12:10:31 AM permalink
This man is a hazard to himself. The only thing I like about these videos is that they create a false impression of what an AP actually does.
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January 5th, 2025 at 8:14:11 PM permalink
Counter colors up just before he gets backed off and is escorted to the cage, but refuses to show ID at the cage and the Golden Nugget refuses to cash him out. The police won't do nothing either.

Counting Cards but Vegas Manager Breaks the Law - Pinkman (for the mask he wears on camera)
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January 6th, 2025 at 1:34:35 AM permalink
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Counter makes big bets and gets quick back offs in LV.



I appreciate the post ty.

That said I find it a little depressing how dominant card counting is as the best known form of AP.

The edge is tiny, requires a huge bankroll to make any serious money, flux can cause losing streaks of over a year, the casinos know about it. It hasn't been anywhere close to the best form of AP for almost 3 decades. I am not sure why it persists in public media so much.
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January 6th, 2025 at 4:08:46 AM permalink
Some of these teams/individuals rack up 5 to 6 figures pretty rapidly on their travels. But these 15-30 minute sessions are career killers when they end in back offs. But as the first video at the top of the thread shows, losing 5 to 6 figures is also possible pretty quickly.
Casinos could see this as irresponsible betting, never mind that they are betting high with a very slight player edge. The typical complaint of casinos hate winners doesn't seem to apply to certain players.
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January 6th, 2025 at 6:35:34 AM permalink
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Some of these teams/individuals rack up 5 to 6 figures pretty rapidly on their travels. But these 15-30 minute sessions are career killers when they end in back offs. But as the first video at the top of the thread shows, losing 5 to 6 figures is also possible pretty quickly.
Casinos could see this as irresponsible betting, never mind that they are betting high with a very slight player edge. The typical complaint of casinos hate winners doesn't seem to apply to certain players.
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Agree with you about the sessions and variance. It makes for a good youtube video though which is maybe the whole point here.. You can make any losses back on courses.

The focus seems to be on absolute session win rather than net profit much less expenses. When you factor those in these guys don't actually make that much per hour.
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January 6th, 2025 at 6:52:57 AM permalink
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Counter makes big bets and gets quick back offs in LV.



I appreciate the post ty.

That said I find it a little depressing how dominant card counting is as the best known form of AP.

The edge is tiny, requires a huge bankroll to make any serious money, flux can cause losing streaks of over a year, the casinos know about it. It hasn't been anywhere close to the best form of AP for almost 3 decades. I am not sure why it persists in public media so much.
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When you don't want the world to know what your left hand is doing, it's important to shine a light on your right hand. If everyone concentrates on your ability to count cards, they are not seeing the clumps you are playing.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
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January 6th, 2025 at 7:04:46 AM permalink
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Counter makes big bets and gets quick back offs in LV.



I appreciate the post ty.

That said I find it a little depressing how dominant card counting is as the best known form of AP.

The edge is tiny, requires a huge bankroll to make any serious money, flux can cause losing streaks of over a year, the casinos know about it. It hasn't been anywhere close to the best form of AP for almost 3 decades. I am not sure why it persists in public media so much.
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When you don't want the world to know what your left hand is doing, it's important to shine a light on your right hand. If everyone concentrates on your ability to count cards, they are not seeing the clumps you are playing.
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Fair point. Yeah this stuff benefits me and probably you a lot in the short term.

But in the longer-term I just wonder if we are losing out on a lot of exciting new tech, because the digital town square is dominated by this type of thing rather than something that might go somewhere.
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January 6th, 2025 at 7:37:11 AM permalink
To clarify, I have not gambled in three years and don't intend to ever engage in it seriously. Playing while enjoying my six-week vacation was great, but living in Vegas full-time burned me out.
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January 16th, 2025 at 4:33:41 PM permalink
Pinkman tours 9 LV casinos and gets the backoffs at almost all of them, I lost count. 9 hour day for 2 hours at the tables to win a couple grand.
Kicked out of Vegas for Counting Cards
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January 17th, 2025 at 1:27:16 AM permalink
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Pinkman tours 9 LV casinos and gets the backoffs at almost all of them, I lost count. 9 hour day for 2 hours at the tables to win a couple grand.
Kicked out of Vegas for Counting Cards
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If this isn't a theatrical production, he have to be a headless horseman to expect that he won't be identified. The casinos easily compared their video recordings from the cameras and established his identity. I think the casino banned him not because he was trying to count cards, but first for hidden video recording.
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January 17th, 2025 at 1:42:26 AM permalink
It's only his 2nd video. His 1st video was up after he was getting bounced from several casinos, so those casinos in the first video have no known knowledge of his YouTube history.
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