Anthony92600
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November 30th, 2024 at 9:33:53 AM permalink
Hello everyone I’m new here and I have a pure theory question :)

Let’s imagine a 6 decks BJ game with an house edge of 0.5% for someone playing Basic strategy

What would be the EDGE of that player if :

1) every time the dealer upcard is a 9 10 or AS, the chance that the dealer hit a 9 or 10 on his third card is 7/13 instead of 5/13
2) every time the dealer upcard is a card from 2 to 8, the chance that the dealer hit a 9 or 10 on his second card (the hidden one) is 7/13 instead of 5/13

Calculations are welcome :)
And thank you a lot guys
Anthony
aceside
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November 30th, 2024 at 10:03:05 AM permalink
I don’t quite understand this question, but let me give an example. If the dealer upcard is an Ace, what is the probability of a dealer hit?

Hit-17 and Stand-17 are different.
Romes
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December 7th, 2024 at 8:08:27 PM permalink
So this sounds like 2 extra big cards out of every 13... which would mean 4 extra big cards per 52... which would mean a +4 TC, and on a "generic" game each TC is worth about .5% to the player... so -.5 + 2 = +1.5%.

Just rough napkin math, but sounds easy enough to get the gist of what you're referring to, no? For the differences between 1) and 2) simply weight them accordingly (6/13 vs 7/13).
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December 8th, 2024 at 4:59:24 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

So this sounds like 2 extra big cards out of every 13... which would mean 4 extra big cards per 52...
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Do you mean, which would mean 8 extra big cards per 52?
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December 8th, 2024 at 10:16:56 AM permalink
Quote: aceside

Quote: Romes

So this sounds like 2 extra big cards out of every 13... which would mean 4 extra big cards per 52...
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Do you mean, which would mean 8 extra big cards per 52?
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Somebody tore the napkin in half while Romes was calculating 😉

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Romes
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December 8th, 2024 at 6:55:31 PM permalink
Quote: aceside

Quote: Romes

So this sounds like 2 extra big cards out of every 13... which would mean 4 extra big cards per 52...
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Do you mean, which would mean 8 extra big cards per 52?
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This is what I get for napkinning at night XD.

Fine... CORRECTED:

"So this sounds like 2 extra big cards out of every 13... which would mean 8 extra big cards per 52... which would mean a +8 TC, and on a "generic" game each TC is worth about .5% to the player... so -.5 + 4 = +3.5%.

Just rough napkin math, but sounds easy enough to get the gist of what you're referring to, no? For the differences between 1) and 2) simply weight them accordingly (6/13 vs 7/13)."
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Anthony92600
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December 17th, 2024 at 9:38:27 AM permalink
Hello guys,

I think you misunderstood my question.
I don’t mean that the deck is high.
I was just imagining a game which would be biased in a way that the dealer will have an increased chance of hitting a 9 or 10 on either his second card either his third card.

You can reply to my initial post again if you know the math :)

Also it would be appreciate to know what changes in basic strategy would be profitable in this case.

Thank you
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December 17th, 2024 at 9:48:08 AM permalink
People come here mainly to say hello to each other, but they waited for many days for you to say thank you.
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December 17th, 2024 at 8:38:52 PM permalink
Quote: Anthony92600

Hello guys,

I think you misunderstood my question...
...
I was just imagining a game which would be biased in a way that the dealer will have an increased chance of hitting a 9 or 10 on either his second card either his third card...

We're saying the same thing. Maybe a miscommunication/translation? How else would the dealer have an 'increased chance' at getting a high card?

If the dealer were to have an 'increased chance' then this would only happen naturally (aka no cheating) when the deck is in a state in which there is a higher concentration of high cards. The math above is accurate and from what you just said I think we understood what you were originally asking, no?
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