Most online BJ game is not fair!

I'm bit new to blackjack, after lotsa reading I try playing blackjack in live dealer, and table games as well.
After sometimes, I prefer the virtual dealer, because it's so much faster compared to the live one and you can pause and continue a hand whenever you like.

What I've experience is most of these games, even with reputable providers... doesn't really provide authentic playing experience.
Most of the time, the very first few hands you'll get a lots of wins... but after 50+ or more, the game algorithm start to sucking you dry.

I'm a beginner BJ player, but I feel that I can differentiate between variants / bad luck or just complete scam.
As most of BJ online games with virtual dealer, we cannot prove the dealer will get the next card out of the shoe.
As we like to think that we're winning coz we're so great... but it's not. You win if the game dealer let you wins.

I write this thread after trying Playtech quantum blackjack (virtual dealer).
Before that I experience: evolution first person blackjack is also rigged. There's no way the dealer have tens and aces like 80% all the time.
Also already tried pragmatic bj, red dog,netent, playngo almost all provider bj with real money (except microgaming coz my location not in approve list?).

I felt most of these games treating Blackjack game like slot machine. And will give you wins at first to hook you up and think the game is fair (coz i'm winning!)
But after that almost impossible to win (unless you agree to accept long losses and give up all your wins that they gave first then the algorithm will start giving you some wins back, but never too much.. only enough to keep you playing and hoping).

Anybody have the same experience? Also any regulated BJ online games that guarantee the dealer's card is completely random from the shoe?

Thanks

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What I've experience is most of these games, even with reputable providers... doesn't really provide authentic playing experience.
Most of the time, the very first few hands you'll get a lots of wins... but after 50+ or more, the game algorithm start to sucking you dry.

If that is the case just make big bets on the early hands and then quit.

That is correct, I just got back my losses ($20+) at playtech quantum from evolution first person BJ. Betting $3-$5 per hand (usual $1 ony) for 10-15 first games.
As I try playtech BJ in new casino, I'm considered as new user with evolution BJ at this casino. If go back to my other casino and play these evo*scammer* blackjack... everytime face dealer.. tens, and aces 70%+ all the time.

Apart from that I do believe these "hook new user" algorithm have some upper limit for wins and won't be that easy to be exploited. I'm only up about $10-$20 in playtech quantum BJ before they started to suck me dry... slowly but sure. Most of the "other" BJ games also will go easy on you the very first time... but not for so long....

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Quote: keiko

What I've experience is most of these games, even with reputable providers... doesn't really provide authentic playing experience.
Most of the time, the very first few hands you'll get a lots of wins... but after 50+ or more, the game algorithm start to sucking you dry.

If that is the case just make big bets on the early hands and then quit.
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I know this sound crazy, but I too have experienced the same "new player win algorithm"

At first, I just chalked it up to confirmation bias, but after experiencing it on many occasions I was convinced.

At some point, I told my friend/fellow AP to sign up and make an account. I said nothing about my theory to him I just gave him paramotors to stay within. As far as he was concerned he was just getting a loss rebate.

After he played.... I asked him if he noticed anything, and sure enough, he was convinced it was gaffed in his favor.

IIRC Romes independently noticed the same thing at the same casino.

Sounds like the Golden Goose right? Well, not really. In my experience, your betting range had to be small in the $1-$7 range.

It seems your profit before take-down mode kicked in was around $170. This was before the world of BitCoin and there are lots of hoops one would have to jump through in order to make an account, deposit cash out, etc. If one has the knowledge/ability and is willing to do all that for $170 there are way better opportunities to be had.

Most places want Full KYC documents nowadays, including a selfie holding your ID.

But who knows, perhaps someone has figured out how to really ramp up and exploit the situation on a bigger scale(It's very possible), if so, they probably know it's best to keep their mouth shut and just keep banking the money.

I have millions in coin in on various software, I have run a betting system within the millions of coin in (Flat bet x X # of losses increase to x) it's very telling. I didn't request and analyze the logs I felt no need.

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I have millions in coin in on various software, I have run a betting system within the millions of coin in (Flat bet x X # of losses increase to x) it's very telling. I didn't request and analyze the logs I felt no need.
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I didn't understand what your point was?

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I have millions in coin in on various software, I have run a betting system within the millions of coin in (Flat bet x X # of losses increase to x) it's very telling. I didn't request and analyze the logs I felt no need.
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I didn't understand what your point was?
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if there was no point then it was to distract and waste your time

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I have millions in coin in on various software, I have run a betting system within the millions of coin in (Flat bet x X # of losses increase to x) it's very telling. I didn't request and analyze the logs I felt no need.
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I didn't understand what your point was?
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if there was no point then it was to distract and waste your time
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I highly doubt that since most of his posts are credible.

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Quote: AxelWolf

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I have millions in coin in on various software, I have run a betting system within the millions of coin in (Flat bet x X # of losses increase to x) it's very telling. I didn't request and analyze the logs I felt no need.
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I didn't understand what your point was?
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if there was no point then it was to distract and waste your time
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I highly doubt that since most of his posts are credible.
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i don't wanna believe you but i will for now

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I have millions in coin in on various software, I have run a betting system within the millions of coin in (Flat bet x X # of losses increase to x) it's very telling. I didn't request and analyze the logs I felt no need.
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I didn't understand what your point was?
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I have extensive play in online BJ I flat bet 1 dollar. After x losses I bet 25 to see the disparity in win rate I also used a 1-10 the results
are so blatantly obvious at many I don't feel the need to request the logs and have them analyzed.
My point is to express my opinion about Gaffing of online BJ to those that can read between the lines.
I also have Gigs of video.