convincing ploppies to let you bankroll their splits/doubles. What could I have done better?
Quote: AxelWolfThis is exactly what it stands for.Quote: DieterMy understanding is that the term comes from players who "plop" themselves on the first open chair they find and start playing without worrying about what game it is or how to play.
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https://www.google.com/search?q=ploppie&oq=plop&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i60l3j69i57j69i59j0i433i512l2j0i131i433i512j0i512.2975j0j4&client=ms-android-tmus-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
Someone needs to correct all those websites cited by Google.
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: AxelWolfThis is exactly what it stands for.Quote: DieterMy understanding is that the term comes from players who "plop" themselves on the first open chair they find and start playing without worrying about what game it is or how to play.
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https://www.google.com/search?q=ploppie&oq=plop&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i60l3j69i57j69i59j0i433i512l2j0i131i433i512j0i512.2975j0j4&client=ms-android-tmus-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
Someone needs to correct all those websites cited by Google.
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I am shocked - SHOCKED - to learn that there are websites on the internet that don't fact check and cite to MLA standards.
Quote: billryanGoogle got something wrong? Stop the presses. Shut the doors.
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Google got nothing wrong.
All the websites that Google quoted got the definition of ploppie wrong.
That's according to members of Wizard of Vegas.
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: IWannaBeAPQuote: AlanMendelson
But then, we never called another player a ploppie so there was never a problem getting repaid. It was an honorable game.
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Let it go dude. It's not even an offensive word. If someone said it to them, they probably have no idea what it even means.
I have no clue what the origin of the word "Ploppy" comes from. But when I hear it, I think of puppy and poppy. So a puppy high af and floating on cloud 9.
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Ploppie is an offensive word and I believe it was created by Frank Scoblete in describing unskilled blackjack players.
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I can see why some people may think this word is offensive but I never did. To me its just shorthand.
Before I did AP I was a ploppy & I started reading up on AP & came across the term & found it amusing especially realizing that is what I was.
They can also be called civilians, regular players, etc. but some APs may not understand those terms,
I actually respect ploppies greatly because without them it would not be possible to AP. And I really mean that sincerely. APs could not exist without them.
It reminds me of something that happened many years ago, I was dating this girl that was a little bit gangster & her friend who did not like me called me a square.
I didn’t take offense. That is exactly what I was & was the best term for it. How else could she have said it? I was uptight, straight laced, law abiding? Not really a better term for it then square.
Which as you may recall derives from square guy. As Ace Rothstein told Nicky Santoro that Leo the banker was. Not a criminal, not part of the underworld, not an insult either, just short of descriptive shorthand for exactly that type of person.
Quote: AlanMendelsonI haven't found a published definition that says ploppie isn't derogatory.
ploppy (plural ploppies)
(slang, derogatory) An unskilled gambler.
But I must admit this forum likes to make up it's own rules and it's own definitions.
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Better to make up one's own definitions than one's own facts.
Quote: Mission146Quote: AlanMendelsonI haven't found a published definition that says ploppie isn't derogatory.
ploppy (plural ploppies)
(slang, derogatory) An unskilled gambler.
But I must admit this forum likes to make up it's own rules and it's own definitions.
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Better to make up one's own definitions than one's own facts.
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Are you talking about showing ID to gamble?
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: Mission146Quote: AlanMendelsonI haven't found a published definition that says ploppie isn't derogatory.
ploppy (plural ploppies)
(slang, derogatory) An unskilled gambler.
But I must admit this forum likes to make up it's own rules and it's own definitions.
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Better to make up one's own definitions than one's own facts.
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Are you talking about showing ID to gamble?
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I think he is. Someone in this thread said that there was a law in Nevada that one must show their ID to gamble.
Quote: DRichQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: Mission146Quote: AlanMendelsonI haven't found a published definition that says ploppie isn't derogatory.
ploppy (plural ploppies)
(slang, derogatory) An unskilled gambler.
But I must admit this forum likes to make up it's own rules and it's own definitions.
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Better to make up one's own definitions than one's own facts.
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Are you talking about showing ID to gamble?
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I think he is. Someone in this thread said that there was a law in Nevada that one must show their ID to gamble.
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When a casino asks you, you must show your ID.
As I've said a hundred times sometimes casinos don't follow the law and do not ask.
I gave the 24/7 phone number for the NGC. Has anyone called yet?
Quote: AlanMendelson
When a casino asks you, you must show your ID.
As I've said a hundred times sometimes casinos don't follow the law and do not ask.
I agree if the casino asks you must show an ID. But there is absolutely no law that requires someone to show ID to gamble. The casinos are not required to ask for ID if you are gambling because there is no law. We both know that if there was you would have posted it and I would have to pay you $20.
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: DRichQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: Mission146Quote: AlanMendelsonI haven't found a published definition that says ploppie isn't derogatory.
ploppy (plural ploppies)
(slang, derogatory) An unskilled gambler.
But I must admit this forum likes to make up it's own rules and it's own definitions.
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Better to make up one's own definitions than one's own facts.
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Are you talking about showing ID to gamble?
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I think he is. Someone in this thread said that there was a law in Nevada that one must show their ID to gamble.
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When a casino asks you, you must show your ID.
As I've said a hundred times sometimes casinos don't follow the law and do not ask.
I gave the 24/7 phone number for the NGC. Has anyone called yet?
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When the casino asks for ID you don't have to show one. That of course means the Casino can ask you to leave but that's about it.
If they have reason to believe you are under age and committing a crime is the only excuse I can see where they could hold you for the authorities.
Quote: DRichQuote: AlanMendelson
When a casino asks you, you must show your ID.
As I've said a hundred times sometimes casinos don't follow the law and do not ask.
I agree if the casino asks you must show an ID. But there is absolutely no law that requires someone to show ID to gamble. The casinos are not required to ask for ID if you are gambling because there is no law. We both know that if there was you would have posted it and I would have to pay you $20.
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Why are you afraid to call the NGC?
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Why are you afraid to call the NGC?
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As I told you I have called NGC over 1000 times and have worked with them for years. I also doubt there is one single agent in the whole group that knows all of the rules. If there is a law just post it, all of the Nevada Revised Statutes are online so you shouldn't have any problem finding it.
If you want to make it more interesting and make a wager on it I will post up $10,000 if you will.
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: DRichQuote: AlanMendelson
When a casino asks you, you must show your ID.
As I've said a hundred times sometimes casinos don't follow the law and do not ask.
I agree if the casino asks you must show an ID. But there is absolutely no law that requires someone to show ID to gamble. The casinos are not required to ask for ID if you are gambling because there is no law. We both know that if there was you would have posted it and I would have to pay you $20.
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Why are you afraid to call the NGC?
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Alan, what question exactly did you ask NCG?
NRS 463350
Call and ask them if you don't believe me.
Quote: AlanMendelsonThe NGC says the ID requirement falls under
NRS 463350
Call and ask them if you don't believe me.
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Has a court interpreted the law to mean that everyone has to show an ID to gamble? Has any casino every been fined for violating that statute for failing to ID everyone that plays?
The statute says you have to be 21. Doesn’t say you have to show ID.
Or read the statute if you don’t believe me? Or do you think NCG is more authoritative than the words of the statute?
https://law.justia.com/codes/nevada/2019/chapter-463/statute-463-350/
Quote: AlanMendelsonThe NGC says the ID requirement falls under
NRS 463350
Call and ask them if you don't believe me.
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That's for ID of under age persons which is what I said above.
If the Casino insisted I look like I might be underage with my grey hair let them call the NGC
Quote: unJonQuote: AlanMendelsonThe NGC says the ID requirement falls under
NRS 463350
Call and ask them if you don't believe me.
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Has a court interpreted the law to mean that everyone has to show an ID to gamble? Has any casino every been fined for violating that statute for failing to ID everyone that plays?
The statute says you have to be 21. Doesn’t say you have to show ID.
Or read the statute if you don’t believe me? Or do you think NCG is more authoritative than the words of the statute?
https://law.justia.com/codes/nevada/2019/chapter-463/statute-463-350/
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Some things are not written. For example... the rules for playing craps, what is considered cheating, how blackjack is played.
I don't understand why you're not calling the NGC ?
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: unJonQuote: AlanMendelsonThe NGC says the ID requirement falls under
NRS 463350
Call and ask them if you don't believe me.
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Has a court interpreted the law to mean that everyone has to show an ID to gamble? Has any casino every been fined for violating that statute for failing to ID everyone that plays?
The statute says you have to be 21. Doesn’t say you have to show ID.
Or read the statute if you don’t believe me? Or do you think NCG is more authoritative than the words of the statute?
https://law.justia.com/codes/nevada/2019/chapter-463/statute-463-350/
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Some things are not written. For example... the rules for playing craps, what is considered cheating, how blackjack is played.
I don't understand why you're not calling the NGC ?
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What are you talking about?
Gaming commission regulations spell out everything especially what is considered cheating and how blackjack is played.
And if they don't spell it out then it doesn't exist.
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: unJonQuote: AlanMendelsonThe NGC says the ID requirement falls under
NRS 463350
Call and ask them if you don't believe me.
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Has a court interpreted the law to mean that everyone has to show an ID to gamble? Has any casino every been fined for violating that statute for failing to ID everyone that plays?
The statute says you have to be 21. Doesn’t say you have to show ID.
Or read the statute if you don’t believe me? Or do you think NCG is more authoritative than the words of the statute?
https://law.justia.com/codes/nevada/2019/chapter-463/statute-463-350/
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Some things are not written. For example... the rules for playing craps, what is considered cheating, how blackjack is played.
I don't understand why you're not calling the NGC ?
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This post is nonsense. Some things aren’t written. Lol.
Gambling & Being in Casino if you are 21 or older
Unlawful:
Gambling & possibly (depending on circumstances) being on casino floor if under 21
Not Unlawful:
Refusing to show ID when asked by casino staff but will almost certainly be required to leave. (May be required to show in case of CTR)
This has been covered many times on GWAE, & elsewhere.
Easy for people including gaming agents, police, casino personnel etc. to get confused as many specific situations & nuances where ID may be required IE you look like you are 15 years old, you have a beer in your hand, & you just hit a taxable on a slot machine, then yes a case could by made that the patron is legally required to present ID to the casino.
But in general it’s well established that you don’t have a legal obligation to show ID if requested by the casino. You may simply leave. Of course if you wish to stay then, yes, to stay you would have a legal obligation to show.
Quote: AlanMendelsonThe NGC says the ID requirement falls under
NRS 463350
Call and ask them if you don't believe me.
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Alan, did you even read the statute you posted? It says nothing about requiring ID to be shown to gamble.
Quote: DRichQuote: AlanMendelsonThe NGC says the ID requirement falls under
NRS 463350
Call and ask them if you don't believe me.
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Alan, did you even read the statute you posted? It says nothing about requiring ID to be shown to gamble.
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Yep and I discussed that in detail, so far, with four different reps of the NGC.
But as they pointed out it's the checking of legal IDs which is required.
So you need to call the NGC.
Why won't you call?
And while you're at it find the rules for playing blackjack and craps.
Hint: you won't.
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: DRichQuote: AlanMendelsonThe NGC says the ID requirement falls under
NRS 463350
Call and ask them if you don't believe me.
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Alan, did you even read the statute you posted? It says nothing about requiring ID to be shown to gamble.
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Yep and I discussed that in detail, so far, with four different reps of the NGC.
But as they pointed out it's the checking of legal IDs which is required.
So you need to call the NGC.
Why won't you call?
And while you're at it find the rules for playing blackjack and craps.
Hint: you won't.
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More ipsi dixit. Alan, why don’t you tell NCG you have a huge whistleblower case. You are aware of casinos violating the law by not checking every player’s ID. Ask them what the penalty per violation for the casino will be, and what your whistleblower cut is.
Quote: AlanMendelson
Yep and I discussed that in detail, so far, with four different reps of the NGC.
Did you talk to the Chief or the Deputy Chief? If so which one? Which division are you talking to Administration? Audit? Enforcement? Investigations? Tax & License? Technology? or as I would assume you would probably believe the "Tooth Fairy" division.
Quote: unJonQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: DRichQuote: AlanMendelsonThe NGC says the ID requirement falls under
NRS 463350
Call and ask them if you don't believe me.
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Alan, did you even read the statute you posted? It says nothing about requiring ID to be shown to gamble.
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Yep and I discussed that in detail, so far, with four different reps of the NGC.
But as they pointed out it's the checking of legal IDs which is required.
So you need to call the NGC.
Why won't you call?
And while you're at it find the rules for playing blackjack and craps.
Hint: you won't.
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More ipsi dixit. Alan, why don’t you tell NCG you have a huge whistleblower case. You are aware of casinos violating the law by not checking every player’s ID. Ask them what the penalty per violation for the casino will be, and what your whistleblower cut is.
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It's obvious you don't believe me, but you won't call the NGC yourself?
What are you afraid of?
Do you think they're going to trace your call and put you in some data base?
Quote: Brickapotamus
But in general it’s well established that you don’t have a legal obligation to show ID if requested by the casino. You may simply leave. Of course if you wish to stay then, yes, to stay you would have a legal obligation to show.
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Brickapotamus gets it. He says it's even been discussed on GWAE.
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: Brickapotamus
But in general it’s well established that you don’t have a legal obligation to show ID if requested by the casino. You may simply leave. Of course if you wish to stay then, yes, to stay you would have a legal obligation to show.
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Brickapotamus gets it. He says it's even been discussed on GWAE.
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Can you comprehend the difference between having to show an ID to continue gambling when asked, and having to show an ID to gamble? Obviously not. LOL
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: Brickapotamus
But in general it’s well established that you don’t have a legal obligation to show ID if requested by the casino. You may simply leave. Of course if you wish to stay then, yes, to stay you would have a legal obligation to show.
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Brickapotamus gets it. He says it's even been discussed on GWAE.
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We all agree the Brickipptamus is correct. No one believes that if unasked for ID, then the casino is violating the law.
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: unJonQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: DRichQuote: AlanMendelsonThe NGC says the ID requirement falls under
NRS 463350
Call and ask them if you don't believe me.
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Alan, did you even read the statute you posted? It says nothing about requiring ID to be shown to gamble.
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Yep and I discussed that in detail, so far, with four different reps of the NGC.
But as they pointed out it's the checking of legal IDs which is required.
So you need to call the NGC.
Why won't you call?
And while you're at it find the rules for playing blackjack and craps.
Hint: you won't.
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More ipsi dixit. Alan, why don’t you tell NCG you have a huge whistleblower case. You are aware of casinos violating the law by not checking every player’s ID. Ask them what the penalty per violation for the casino will be, and what your whistleblower cut is.
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It's obvious you don't believe me, but you won't call the NGC yourself?
What are you afraid of?
Do you think they're going to trace your call and put you in some data base?
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Correct
Nothing
No
Go pursue your whistleblower suit and reap the rewards.
Quote: DRichQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: Brickapotamus
But in general it’s well established that you don’t have a legal obligation to show ID if requested by the casino. You may simply leave. Of course if you wish to stay then, yes, to stay you would have a legal obligation to show.
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Brickapotamus gets it. He says it's even been discussed on GWAE.
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Can you comprehend the difference between having to show an ID to continue gambling when asked, and having to show an ID to gamble? Obviously not. LOL
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Now you're being silly. There is no sign in a casino that says show your ID to the dealer when you buy in.
LOL
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: DRichQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: Brickapotamus
But in general it’s well established that you don’t have a legal obligation to show ID if requested by the casino. You may simply leave. Of course if you wish to stay then, yes, to stay you would have a legal obligation to show.
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Brickapotamus gets it. He says it's even been discussed on GWAE.
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Can you comprehend the difference between having to show an ID to continue gambling when asked, and having to show an ID to gamble? Obviously not. LOL
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Now you're being silly. There is no sign in a casino that says show your ID to the dealer when you buy in.
LOL
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Nobody said there was a sign, some il-informed poster said there was a law.
I’m sort of confused what you are saying now. Do you mind answering the hypo below.
I walk into a casino. Nobody asks me for ID. I go to the craps table and change $500 for chips. Dealer asks me for players card. I say I don’t have one. Nobody asks me for ID. I play for an hour. Break even. Color up and go to cage. Cashier exchanges my chips for $500. She doesn’t ask me for ID. I leave.
In the above, did casino violate law? Did I violate law? If so, at what point.
Quote: DRichQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: DRichQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: Brickapotamus
But in general it’s well established that you don’t have a legal obligation to show ID if requested by the casino. You may simply leave. Of course if you wish to stay then, yes, to stay you would have a legal obligation to show.
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Brickapotamus gets it. He says it's even been discussed on GWAE.
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Can you comprehend the difference between having to show an ID to continue gambling when asked, and having to show an ID to gamble? Obviously not. LOL
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Now you're being silly. There is no sign in a casino that says show your ID to the dealer when you buy in.
LOL
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Nobody said there was a sign, some il-informed poster said there was a law.
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You really need to argue this with the NGC. They call it a law.
But you refuse to call the NGC. Why?
I have called. I discussed it four different times and the answers from the NGC are all consistent.
Here's the phone number:
(702) 486-2020
It's staffed 24/7. Call right now.
Alan believes he is right and everyone else is wrong. Everyone else thinks they are right and he is not. So what?
Let it go.
Alan can feel a little gangster when he gets away without being id'd on his next trip.
Quote: billryanI have to say that between this and the even bob surefire foolette method, I'm wondering why I came back.
Alan believes he is right and everyone else is wrong. Everyone else thinks they are right and he is not. So what?
Let it go.
Alan can feel a little gangster when he gets away without being id'd on his next trip.
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I present my players card when I buy in. Anyone presenting or using a player's card passes the ID requirement. For example, on hand pays: I've never been asked for ID on a hand pay because my card was in the machine.
I still am curious why no one is calling the NGC?
(702) 486-2020
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: billryanI have to say that between this and the even bob surefire foolette method, I'm wondering why I came back.
Alan believes he is right and everyone else is wrong. Everyone else thinks they are right and he is not. So what?
Let it go.
Alan can feel a little gangster when he gets away without being id'd on his next trip.
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I present my players card when I buy in. Anyone presenting or using a player's card passes the ID requirement. For example, on hand pays: I've never been asked for ID on a hand pay because my card was in the machine.
I still am curious why no one is calling the NGC?
(702) 486-2020
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Wait, What?
I honestly have never won a handpay out West but if it is the same as on the East Coast you just said a load of bullcrapping pucky.
ID is always required on a handpay for a jackpot at a slot machine.
The only time it isn't is when you have hit your second or more FOR THE DAY and the attendant recognizes you and your players card and just goes off that. But you have been ID'd by your ID and and NOT your players card.
Alan, seriously now are you just staying at home with lighted candles guessing at how things work?
And why call the NGC to ask stupid questions? For that matter why aren't you calling the NGC to ask stupid questions?
Quote: heatmapi had the biggest dude threaten me because when i sat down he started to lose he said he was part of the KKK and told me to leave the table or else - i didnt because im just dumb and you cant teach dumb people lessons
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Are you a member of a minority group or at least resemble one? I'm not sure why him being a Klan member would somehow give him the ability to make players flee in terror?
Even the most ignorant bigot would eventually realize that more than half the people at casinos are not Caucasian and that includes dealers in most gambling places.
Quote: 7NeverWinsQuote: heatmapi had the biggest dude threaten me because when i sat down he started to lose he said he was part of the KKK and told me to leave the table or else - i didnt because im just dumb and you cant teach dumb people lessons
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Are you a member of a minority group or at least resemble one? I'm not sure why him being a Klan member would somehow give him the ability to make players flee in terror?
Even the most ignorant bigot would eventually realize that more than half the people at casinos are not Caucasian and that includes dealers in most gambling places.
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Trust me, Caucasian Jews are running the same direction as the blacks when the KKK enters.
Quote: darkozQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: billryanI have to say that between this and the even bob surefire foolette method, I'm wondering why I came back.
Alan believes he is right and everyone else is wrong. Everyone else thinks they are right and he is not. So what?
Let it go.
Alan can feel a little gangster when he gets away without being id'd on his next trip.
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I present my players card when I buy in. Anyone presenting or using a player's card passes the ID requirement. For example, on hand pays: I've never been asked for ID on a hand pay because my card was in the machine.
I still am curious why no one is calling the NGC?
(702) 486-2020
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Wait, What?
I honestly have never won a handpay out West but if it is the same as on the East Coast you just said a load of bullcrapping pucky.
ID is always required on a handpay for a jackpot at a slot machine.
The only time it isn't is when you have hit your second or more FOR THE DAY and the attendant recognizes you and your players card and just goes off that. But you have been ID'd by your ID and and NOT your players card.
Alan, seriously now are you just staying at home with lighted candles guessing at how things work?
And why call the NGC to ask stupid questions? For that matter why aren't you calling the NGC to ask stupid questions?
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Sorry Darkoz but I haven't given my driver's license for a hand pay in maybe 25 years. They use my players card.
Caesars, Red Rock, Paris, MGM, NYNY, Suncoast, Pala, Pechanga, Rincon, Bellagio all the same.
Of course my player cards don't have a name like Sally or Jane on them.
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: darkozQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: billryanI have to say that between this and the even bob surefire foolette method, I'm wondering why I came back.
Alan believes he is right and everyone else is wrong. Everyone else thinks they are right and he is not. So what?
Let it go.
Alan can feel a little gangster when he gets away without being id'd on his next trip.
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I present my players card when I buy in. Anyone presenting or using a player's card passes the ID requirement. For example, on hand pays: I've never been asked for ID on a hand pay because my card was in the machine.
I still am curious why no one is calling the NGC?
(702) 486-2020
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Wait, What?
I honestly have never won a handpay out West but if it is the same as on the East Coast you just said a load of bullcrapping pucky.
ID is always required on a handpay for a jackpot at a slot machine.
The only time it isn't is when you have hit your second or more FOR THE DAY and the attendant recognizes you and your players card and just goes off that. But you have been ID'd by your ID and and NOT your players card.
Alan, seriously now are you just staying at home with lighted candles guessing at how things work?
And why call the NGC to ask stupid questions? For that matter why aren't you calling the NGC to ask stupid questions?
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Sorry Darkoz but I haven't given my driver's license for a hand pay in maybe 25 years. They use my players card.
Caesars, Red Rock, Paris, MGM, NYNY, Suncoast, Pala, Pechanga, Rincon, Bellagio all the same.
Of course my player cards don't have a name like Sally or Jane on them.
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Like I said I don't do West Coast so have to wait for others to chime in (what you said doesn't fly East Coast)
I will say if true I might open operations out there.
Of course my cards will all be Charles, Wilson, James.
BTW, do you also give your Social Security number or is that also assumed by the Casinos you frequent?
Quote: darkozQuote: 7NeverWinsQuote: heatmapi had the biggest dude threaten me because when i sat down he started to lose he said he was part of the KKK and told me to leave the table or else - i didnt because im just dumb and you cant teach dumb people lessons
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Are you a member of a minority group or at least resemble one? I'm not sure why him being a Klan member would somehow give him the ability to make players flee in terror?
Even the most ignorant bigot would eventually realize that more than half the people at casinos are not Caucasian and that includes dealers in most gambling places.
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Trust me, Caucasian Jews are running the same direction as the blacks when the KKK enters.
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Okay. Why would you run? Ever think about standing up to them? Why not go trophy hunting?
Quote: billryanQuote: darkozQuote: 7NeverWinsQuote: heatmapi had the biggest dude threaten me because when i sat down he started to lose he said he was part of the KKK and told me to leave the table or else - i didnt because im just dumb and you cant teach dumb people lessons
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Are you a member of a minority group or at least resemble one? I'm not sure why him being a Klan member would somehow give him the ability to make players flee in terror?
Even the most ignorant bigot would eventually realize that more than half the people at casinos are not Caucasian and that includes dealers in most gambling places.
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Trust me, Caucasian Jews are running the same direction as the blacks when the KKK enters.
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Okay. Why would you run? Ever think about standing up to them? Why not go trophy hunting?
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The same reason I don't run into a burning building to be a hero.
There's a thin line between bravery and stupidity.
Quote: darkozQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: darkozQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: billryanI have to say that between this and the even bob surefire foolette method, I'm wondering why I came back.
Alan believes he is right and everyone else is wrong. Everyone else thinks they are right and he is not. So what?
Let it go.
Alan can feel a little gangster when he gets away without being id'd on his next trip.
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I present my players card when I buy in. Anyone presenting or using a player's card passes the ID requirement. For example, on hand pays: I've never been asked for ID on a hand pay because my card was in the machine.
I still am curious why no one is calling the NGC?
(702) 486-2020
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Wait, What?
I honestly have never won a handpay out West but if it is the same as on the East Coast you just said a load of bullcrapping pucky.
ID is always required on a handpay for a jackpot at a slot machine.
The only time it isn't is when you have hit your second or more FOR THE DAY and the attendant recognizes you and your players card and just goes off that. But you have been ID'd by your ID and and NOT your players card.
Alan, seriously now are you just staying at home with lighted candles guessing at how things work?
And why call the NGC to ask stupid questions? For that matter why aren't you calling the NGC to ask stupid questions?
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Sorry Darkoz but I haven't given my driver's license for a hand pay in maybe 25 years. They use my players card.
Caesars, Red Rock, Paris, MGM, NYNY, Suncoast, Pala, Pechanga, Rincon, Bellagio all the same.
Of course my player cards don't have a name like Sally or Jane on them.
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Like I said I don't do West Coast so have to wait for others to chime in (what you said doesn't fly East Coast)
I will say if true I might open operations out there.
Of course my cards will all be Charles, Wilson, James.
BTW, do you also give your Social Security number or is that also assumed by the Casinos you frequent?
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When you get your players card you need to provide your social security number.
Quote: AlanMendelsonThe NGC says the ID requirement falls under
NRS 463350
Call and ask them if you don't believe me.
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https://law.justia.com/codes/nevada/2019/chapter-463/statute-463-350/
Okay, so it says:
Quote:Universal Citation: NV Rev Stat § 463.350 (2019)
1. A person under the age of 21 years shall not:
(a) Play, be allowed to play, place wagers at, or collect winnings from, whether personally or through an agent, any gambling game, slot machine, race book, sports pool or pari-mutuel operator.
(b) Loiter, or be permitted to loiter, in or about any room or premises wherein any licensed game, race book, sports pool or pari-mutuel wagering is operated or conducted.
(c) Except as otherwise provided in subsection 2, be employed as a gaming employee except in a counting room.
2. A person who is of the age of majority as provided in NRS 129.010 may be employed as a gaming employee by a licensed manufacturer or distributor at the business premises of the licensed manufacturer or distributor if the employee:
(a) Designs, develops, programs, produces or composes a control program or other software, source language or executable code of a gaming device, associated equipment or a gaming support system, subject to peer review and change management procedures adopted by the licensee;
(b) Fabricates or assembles the components of a gaming device, associated equipment or a gaming support system; or
(c) Installs, modifies, repairs or maintains a gaming device, associated equipment or a gaming support system.
3. Any licensee, employee, dealer or other person who violates or permits the violation of any of the provisions of this section and any person who is under 21 years of age or not eligible to be employed as a gaming employee pursuant to subsection 2 who violates any of the provisions of this section is guilty of a misdemeanor.
4. In any prosecution or other proceeding for the violation of any of the provisions of this section, it is no excuse for the licensee, employee, dealer or other person to plead that he or she believed the person to be 21 years old or over or to be eligible to be employed as a gaming employee pursuant to subsection 2.
Okay, so the first part says you have to be 21 to gamble, etc.
The second part describes who may be a gaming employee without being 21.
The third part says you may not violate the law.
The fourth item says that it is not a defense to claim that they believed the person was over 21 years old.
In other words, that you didn't check ID is not a defense to violating the law, or allowing the law to be violated by someone else, but nor does the law say that you are absolutely required to check everyone's ID.
But, believe whatever you wish.
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Yep and I discussed that in detail, so far, with four different reps of the NGC.
But as they pointed out it's the checking of legal IDs which is required.
So you need to call the NGC.
Why won't you call?
And while you're at it find the rules for playing blackjack and craps.
Hint: you won't.
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I'm used to asking casino employees and regulators questions and getting different answers, but for five people to believe the same thing that is exactly wrong pursuant to an actual reading of the statute cited is impressive even by my expectations!
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Alan believes he is right and everyone else is wrong.
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I present my players card when I buy in. Anyone presenting or using a player's card passes the ID requirement. For example, on hand pays: I've never been asked for ID on a hand pay because my card was in the machine.
I still am curious why no one is calling the NGC?
(702) 486-2020
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Because we all know NOBODY has EVER used someone's else's players club card in a casino before.
Not insults, but a few questions: Are you lonely? Why not add something useful or factual? I assume you know a good bit about casinos. Do you perceive this as the best way to get people to talk to you?
I guess any attention is good attention.
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I present my players card when I buy in. Anyone presenting or using a player's card passes the ID requirement. For example, on hand pays: I've never been asked for ID on a hand pay because my card was in the machine.
I still am curious why no one is calling the NGC?
(702) 486-2020
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Because we all know NOBODY has EVER used someone's else's players club card in a casino before.
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I think if I was a recognizeable TV star and my card name matched my on-air name, I could get away with just a player's card, too.
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I think if I was a recognizeable TV star and my card name matched my on-air name, I could get away with just a player's card, too.
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Who is the recognizable TV star? I didn't realize that dealers were such vociferous aficionados of infomercials.
