6:5 BJ
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March 25th, 2022 at 6:55:09 AM
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Hi,
I might have missed it a year ago but this article should be posted on every BJ board for the masses to read:
https://www.cdcgamingreports.com/commentaries/massachusetts-and-pennsylvania-a-lesson-from-two-blackjack-payouts/#.Yj2QnrKYM_U.twitter
I might have missed it a year ago but this article should be posted on every BJ board for the masses to read:
https://www.cdcgamingreports.com/commentaries/massachusetts-and-pennsylvania-a-lesson-from-two-blackjack-payouts/#.Yj2QnrKYM_U.twitter
G Man
March 25th, 2022 at 6:59:25 AM
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Viva Las Vania!
Boston Black Jack is just baked beans.
Boston Black Jack is just baked beans.
May 1st, 2023 at 4:20:32 AM
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Quote: GManHi,
I might have missed it a year ago but this article should be posted on every BJ board for the masses to read:
https://www.cdcgamingreports.com/commentaries/massachusetts-and-pennsylvania-a-lesson-from-two-blackjack-payouts/#.Yj2QnrKYM_U.twitter
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There’s other things to consider like the inside of how a casino operates that the article doesn’t talk about. Such as desired hold rates that GM’s and VP’s want to see for certain bet denominations. They want red chippers and green chippers to have a higher hold. A higher hold can only be attained with a worse game. Hence why they do it for the low stakes tables in MA.
I by no means want 6:5 blackjack and tell everyone to stay away from it. But it’s a fact of life that it’s here. The best we can advise is for people to not play it. It’s like drugs: just say no.
May 1st, 2023 at 8:11:49 AM
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Quote: WABJ11
I by no means want 6:5 blackjack and tell everyone to stay away from it. But it’s a fact of life that it’s here. The best we can advise is for people to not play it. It’s like drugs: just say no.
I look at it as for people that play the lottery, 6:5 blackjack offers a great return.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
May 1st, 2023 at 8:18:05 AM
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If I won $2,500 on just Blackjacks in a 400 hand session, a 20% reduction in the wins because it's 6:5 instead of 3:2 means I win $500 less.
If I was running $4,000 ahead for the session, 6:5 would bring it down to $3,500. If I was running -$500 in the session, I'd bust out on my $1,000 buy-in with the extra $500 loss.
If I was running $4,000 ahead for the session, 6:5 would bring it down to $3,500. If I was running -$500 in the session, I'd bust out on my $1,000 buy-in with the extra $500 loss.
May 1st, 2023 at 6:15:00 PM
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Quote: DRichQuote: WABJ11
I by no means want 6:5 blackjack and tell everyone to stay away from it. But it’s a fact of life that it’s here. The best we can advise is for people to not play it. It’s like drugs: just say no.
I look at it as for people that play the lottery, 6:5 blackjack offers a great return.
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It is funny how in a tizzy this forum gets over 6:5 BJ. Yet double zero roulette exists. And 92% slots. And Big Red. And baccarat tie.
Casinos are in business to make money. If it wasn’t for ‘history’ decent odds BJ would not exist.
May 1st, 2023 at 6:31:04 PM
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First and foremost, paying 6:5 is changing a fundamental part of the game. 6:5 games shouldn’t even be called blackjack…they should be called 21Quote: SOOPOOQuote: DRichQuote: WABJ11
I by no means want 6:5 blackjack and tell everyone to stay away from it. But it’s a fact of life that it’s here. The best we can advise is for people to not play it. It’s like drugs: just say no.
I look at it as for people that play the lottery, 6:5 blackjack offers a great return.
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It is funny how in a tizzy this forum gets over 6:5 BJ. Yet double zero roulette exists. And 92% slots. And Big Red. And baccarat tie.
Casinos are in business to make money. If it wasn’t for ‘history’ decent odds BJ would not exist.
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Second, the average edge on 3:2 blackjack is about 2% (so I’ve read). This is higher than baccarat, craps pass line and European roulette. No basis for jacking it up more
It’s all about making that GTA
May 1st, 2023 at 8:54:42 PM
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Quote: Ace2First and foremost, paying 6:5 is changing a fundamental part of the game. 6:5 games shouldn’t even be called blackjack…they should be called 21Quote: SOOPOOQuote: DRichQuote: WABJ11
I by no means want 6:5 blackjack and tell everyone to stay away from it. But it’s a fact of life that it’s here. The best we can advise is for people to not play it. It’s like drugs: just say no.
I look at it as for people that play the lottery, 6:5 blackjack offers a great return.
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It is funny how in a tizzy this forum gets over 6:5 BJ. Yet double zero roulette exists. And 92% slots. And Big Red. And baccarat tie.
Casinos are in business to make money. If it wasn’t for ‘history’ decent odds BJ would not exist.
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Second, the average edge on 3:2 blackjack is about 2% (so I’ve read). This is higher than baccarat, craps pass line and European roulette. No basis for jacking it up more
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If people will play a 3% house edge game instead of a 2% house edge game that by definition IS THE BASIS for having the 3% game. You won’t play it. I won’t play it. But if the seats are full it is here to stay.
As far as the name…. There are a boatload of different rules that are all called Blackjack. Hit soft 17. Stand soft 17. Double any hand. Double only 11. Split once, twice, three times. Surrender. No surrender. Which set of rules do you reserve for the name ‘Blackjack’?
May 1st, 2023 at 11:50:17 PM
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(snip!)
A player natural 21 is paid at more than 1:1.
Dealer loses when exceeding a hard 21 total. (No push on 22.)
This could be quite interesting to see how people feel.
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Which set of rules do you reserve for the name ‘Blackjack’?
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A player natural 21 is paid at more than 1:1.
Dealer loses when exceeding a hard 21 total. (No push on 22.)
This could be quite interesting to see how people feel.
May the cards fall in your favor.
May 2nd, 2023 at 4:16:17 AM
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"6 is more than 3. So 6-5 is better than 3-2."
"Triple Zero Roulette gives you more ways to win."
--- Casino Managers
"Triple Zero Roulette gives you more ways to win."
--- Casino Managers
May 2nd, 2023 at 4:22:46 AM
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Quote: SkittleCar1
"Triple Zero Roulette gives you more ways to win."
--- Casino Managers
Sadly, it is a true statement.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
May 2nd, 2023 at 9:07:35 AM
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6:5 raises the edge by about 1.5%. None of the other common variations are remotely close…most are 0.1% or less.Quote: SOOPOOQuote: Ace2First and foremost, paying 6:5 is changing a fundamental part of the game. 6:5 games shouldn’t even be called blackjack…they should be called 21Quote: SOOPOOQuote: DRichQuote: WABJ11
I by no means want 6:5 blackjack and tell everyone to stay away from it. But it’s a fact of life that it’s here. The best we can advise is for people to not play it. It’s like drugs: just say no.
I look at it as for people that play the lottery, 6:5 blackjack offers a great return.
link to original post
It is funny how in a tizzy this forum gets over 6:5 BJ. Yet double zero roulette exists. And 92% slots. And Big Red. And baccarat tie.
Casinos are in business to make money. If it wasn’t for ‘history’ decent odds BJ would not exist.
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Second, the average edge on 3:2 blackjack is about 2% (so I’ve read). This is higher than baccarat, craps pass line and European roulette. No basis for jacking it up more
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If people will play a 3% house edge game instead of a 2% house edge game that by definition IS THE BASIS for having the 3% game. You won’t play it. I won’t play it. But if the seats are full it is here to stay.
As far as the name…. There are a boatload of different rules that are all called Blackjack. Hit soft 17. Stand soft 17. Double any hand. Double only 11. Split once, twice, three times. Surrender. No surrender. Which set of rules do you reserve for the name ‘Blackjack’?
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Also, many of those variations net out and you still have a 3:2 game with an edge around 0.5% (playing basic strategy) for most games despite some varying rules. However, 6:5 QUADRUPLES that 0.5% edge !
It’s all about making that GTA
May 2nd, 2023 at 9:46:20 AM
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Blackjack is one of many games that have rules variations (equivalent to game variants). However, the name of the game is indeed "blackjack" and when the first two dealt cards add to 21, it should pay out more than 1:1, IMO.
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
June 23rd, 2023 at 12:12:06 PM
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Since 6:5 has increasingly become the only Blackjack game available to low-minimum players (under $75) at many casinos, I was wondering about the possibility of "waving off" that paltry payout and attempting to double down on my Ace-Face as merely another eleven. I haven't tried it at the only local casino, but being able to do so against a weak dealer upcard would seem to make more sense than taking what is essentially even money.
June 23rd, 2023 at 12:28:35 PM
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8 decks, 6;5, H17, DOA, DAS, split 3x, surrender
A-Ten vs 6
Stand (BJ) EV = 120%
Double: EV= 66.65%
BJ always wins against 2-9 which is why it is better than doubling
A-Ten vs 6
Stand (BJ) EV = 120%
Double: EV= 66.65%
BJ always wins against 2-9 which is why it is better than doubling
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
June 23rd, 2023 at 12:34:57 PM
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