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unJon
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June 1st, 2021 at 2:57:56 PM permalink
Quote: Moraine

He did not mention 3-to-2 either.

I cannot remember when was the last time I saw a SINGLE-DECK 3-TO-2 blackjack. If there still is single-deck 3-to-2 blackjack with common rules, NO CARD COUNTING IS NEEDED. It can be beat with COMPOSITIONAL BASIC STRATEGY.



He plays 3:2 game single deck games.
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June 1st, 2021 at 8:12:41 PM permalink
Quote: Moraine

He did not mention 3-to-2 either.

I cannot remember when was the last time I saw a SINGLE-DECK 3-TO-2 blackjack. If there still is single-deck 3-to-2 blackjack with common rules, NO CARD COUNTING IS NEEDED. It can be beat with COMPOSITIONAL BASIC STRATEGY.



O brother! 😅😅😅

Lots'of 3.2 single deck in Reno.
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June 1st, 2021 at 9:53:18 PM permalink
Quote: moses

O brother! 😅😅😅

Lots'of 3.2 single deck in Reno.



Other than 3:2, what are the other rules?

NO MATTER WHAT, they can still get you with SLEIGH OF HAND, if the rules are too good to be true.

Remember 🤣"Dealing 🤣Second"?🤣
OnceDear
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June 2nd, 2021 at 4:53:40 AM permalink
Quote: Moraine

Other than 3:2, what are the other rules?

NO MATTER WHAT, they can still get you with SLEIGH OF HAND, if the rules are too good to be true.

Remember 🤣"Dealing 🤣Second"?🤣

That's a pretty staggering claim. Put up, or shut up! Evidence or retraction.

If you have any belief in your favoured card counting system, then it's either good enough to thrash a crooked dealer, or it's accepting that casino games are not crooked. So your point is moot.

DON'T try to take us down a 'crooked casinos' rabbit-hole just as a lame defence of some of your lost debating points.

If you want to say that any or many casino games are crooked, then bring evidence, or drop it.

You came here to surreptitiously spam the forum by opening up a third party debate of your system and book. That puts you on thin ice with moderators..
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June 2nd, 2021 at 5:33:05 AM permalink
Quote: Moraine

I cannot remember when was the last time I saw a SINGLE-DECK 3-TO-2 blackjack.



Currently, there's about 21 casinos offering Single Deck 3:2 in Nevada and a dozen more throughout the USA.
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moses
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June 2nd, 2021 at 9:45:46 AM permalink
There are issues with single deck. But you find your spots just like one should be doing in anything else.

A RC 12+ means the deck composition is 50% 10,A and 50% other cards. I added this option to my column count in an effort to get a higher percentage of large bets. It was counter productive.

So I hope Moraine sells a million books.😉😄
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moses
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June 2nd, 2021 at 9:48:47 AM permalink
Quote: GMan

Currently, there's about 21 casinos offering Single Deck 3:2 in Nevada and a dozen more throughout the USA.
Being well informed should be a priority if you want to give lessons.


Reno is down to 10 since Covid. Maybe less.
GMan
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June 2nd, 2021 at 2:12:31 PM permalink
Quote: moses

Reno is down to 10 since Covid. Maybe less.



Sounds good, from CBJN of november 2020 it was already at 9 casinos with SD in Reno including Sparks and Verdi :-)
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June 4th, 2021 at 6:21:20 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

So, Moraine....
You are a keen advocate of the AceMT count. I get that.

Do I discern that you have a monetary interest in promoting it? Just asking, as if you are, say selling a book or course based on it, you really must divulge that interest.

If not, then carry on.... Or maybe give up on the lost causes here and go take the casinos down.

Thanks.



This user has been banned from two other blackjack forums that I know of for exactly this kind of nonsense behavior. They're trying to be a bit sneaky about it here, pretending to have some innocent interest before springing their book on everyone.

It's pure proselytizing over their "system" and the book they are selling that describes it. They will not listen to reasoned analysis or any criticism, it's like a religion with them. I would strongly recommend banning them here too, before it gets out of hand (looks like it already has).
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June 4th, 2021 at 9:04:17 AM permalink
Quote: johndoe

This user has been banned from two other blackjack forums that I know of for exactly this kind of nonsense behavior. They're trying to be a bit sneaky about it here, pretending to have some innocent interest before springing their book on everyone.

It's pure proselytizing over their "system" and the book they are selling that describes it. They will not listen to reasoned analysis or any criticism, it's like a religion with them. I would strongly recommend banning them here too, before it gets out of hand (looks like it already has).


JohnDoe shoots and SCORE. Norm could thin out some of the systems he sponsors at qfit. I think there are 28? Most of them were computed with outdated misinformation.

No books to write or read for me. All you need is SCORE followed by good old fashion hard work.
moses
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June 4th, 2021 at 3:28:58 PM permalink
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JohnDoe shoots and SCORE. Norm could thin out some of the systems he sponsors at qfit. I think there are 28? Most of them were computed with outdated misinformation.

No books to write or read for me. All you need is SCORE followed by good old fashion hard work.

That being said, you could go from 28 to 2 and still have simplicity and not sacrifice SCORE.

No need to create confusion to confound the understanding.

Take KJ and the HILO'ers. Drop the 2. Add the 7 and 14v10 to the ill 18.
Better yet add it to the 5. Of course now we have the feared Level 2. But it shouldn't make much difference to the cancel out way of counting. Reduce the wild variance and swings with improved deck composition.

Freighters Wong Halves with ASC is a Level 3. The real problem is having 4 different 1/2 point tags. Drop the 2. Count the 7 as a 1. Add 14v10. Now there are only two 1/2 point tags.

Easy Peasy. No? Make complex simple again.
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June 8th, 2021 at 3:51:33 PM permalink
Quote: Moraine

Believe it or Not, AceMT, by Counting the High Cards -- A, K, Q, J, and Ten --

1. Attains 99.1% of Hi-Lo’s total BC+ PE + IC,
2. Can reach 100 % perfect IC with an added Ace Side Count, and beat Hi-Lo's toal BC+PE+IC hands down,
...........

Ah, so by making it easier we can then make it harder to do the same thing. Nailed it.
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June 8th, 2021 at 6:16:30 PM permalink
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moses
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June 9th, 2021 at 9:12:38 AM permalink
The only two cards you dont need to count is the 2 and the 8. One little and the one in the middle. The 9 is pivotal and can be used to balance.

In a column count, without deep pen, counting the 2 and 8 will do more damage than good. The 8 is best at neutral and the 2 can lead to higher TCs with poor deck compositions in a conventional count. This results in wilder swings which sends some off the deep end. Handling it well is not the answer. Simple improvements can be made with todays technology and SCORE.

It comes down to deck composition. You cant get that if you dont count the cards. Too much throwing good money after bad without it.
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Moraine
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June 20th, 2021 at 6:27:26 AM permalink
Quote: johndoe

This user has been banned from two other blackjack forums that I know of for exactly this kind of nonsense behavior. They're trying to be a bit sneaky about it here, pretending to have some innocent interest before springing their book on everyone.

It's pure proselytizing over their "system" and the book they are selling that describes it. They will not listen to reasoned analysis or any criticism, it's like a religion with them. I would strongly recommend banning them here too, before it gets out of hand (looks like it already has).



WOW, johndoe, you joined this forum on December 6, 2010. No one had had an opportunity to fathom the depth of your soul and mind in more than 10 years. And you made your very first post in this forum on the 4th of June in the Year of 2021 of our Lord? On Moraine’s thread: Believe it or Not, AceMT by . . . ?

Moraine felt deeply honored upon knowing that he had given you a cause to break your decade-old silence. What an Achievement!

Please keep up your good work, johndoe. We -- Moraine should also be included -- owed you a heart-felt thank. Go whatever forums Moraine might have not yet been banned. Find Dirt, Snitch on Him! We count on you to prevent card counters from being “proselytized” by the heresy AceMT "before it gets out of hand." Amen, Amen, Amen. 😇
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GMan
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June 20th, 2021 at 7:08:11 AM permalink
Quote: Moraine


Moraine felt deeply honored upon knowing that he had given you a cause to break your decade-old silence. What an Achievement!



Yes, and a cause it is. Anyone trying to stop you from spreading you bullshit on the internet has a cause. Some sites understand faster than others and have already stopped you from spreading your s..t

Go on, your time is counted.
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moses
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June 20th, 2021 at 9:19:28 PM permalink
Quote: GMan

Yes, and a cause it is. Anyone trying to stop you from spreading you bullshit on the internet has a cause. Some sites understand faster than others and have already stopped you from spreading your s..t

Go on, your time is counted.

ok. I will bite. Who is Moraine?
OnceDear
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June 21st, 2021 at 6:17:27 AM permalink
Quote: moses

ok. I will bite. Who is Moraine?

Moraine Mono is a guy that self published a book about his favourite card counting system, ACEMT. I suspect he's also the designer of that counting system, but that's academic.

He came here as some random newbie to discuss the merits of that count, but it was a while before we got him to confess to his self promotion of his book. I allowed him to stay in spite of that sneaky spamming, but when he started loosely insulting others in this thread, I lost patience and nuked him. He's pulled the same stunt and got nuked at other fora.

It's a funny old world. By answering your question, I promote his book $:o)

google 'amazon acemt moraine blackjack' for your answer.
I don't recommend or endorse his book.
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June 21st, 2021 at 8:04:58 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Moraine Mono is a guy that self published a book about his favourite card counting system, ACEMT.

It's a funny old world. By answering your question, I promote his book $:o)

google 'amazon acemt moraine blackjack' for your answer.
I don't recommend or endorse his book.



No, you only promote it.
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June 21st, 2021 at 8:31:20 AM permalink
I must have been asleep during internet puppet training seminar.

Two words. Deck composition. We all know a deck rich in 10,A is good. A deck depleted of 5's is evem better. The 8 doesnt matter.

From there, you do alot of work and put up with many things just to stay even or slightly ahead.

Of course, the belief is there are many blackjack millionaires running around soaking casinos, seminars training newbies, and writing books. So more idiots throw good money after bad. It also scares the crap out of some pit bosses. The equation simply doesnt add up.
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