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The other day I decided to go to wind creek bethlehem. I am alone at my own table, 15 dollar minimum, and im not doing too bad. I was almost out of money before i got a split with a double and won my money back plus a little bit.
First thing, and yeah yeah i know youve heard it so many times most likely, but before you go to the normal responses, i think its time to revisit this subject.
The subject im referring to is adding a player to the game. Adding a player to the game of blackjack, within PA casinos, or possibly because of the way the shufflers shuffle the cards, a blackjack appears on the table. Mostly IMO for the dealer.
Heres the rest of the story.
So i win most of my money back, and this guy is hovering behind me, an older gentleman, who is courteous enough to wait and sit down after a few of my hands. I am also a believer that adding a person screws my winning up but thats another story for another day as to why I think it happens - which it did i lost when he started playing but then...
After he sat down, just to cover my bases, I said to him " i know this is a bunch of bullish but i say it to most people that usually when someone sits at these tables in between a shoe, the dealer gets blackjack. And i know its bullish because if its random this wont happen at all."
well wouldnt you know the dealer gets a blackjack
WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN??????
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13And let me guess, right at the same time the exact same hand was on TV. Then the shuffle machine went into beast mode, followed by the floor coming over and removing the 10 cards on a new Chinese deck.
ZCore13
So what would you do if you sat down at my table and i "predicted" the exact hand that the dealer would get... is that random to you?
i should not be able to say something is reliably going to happen if its random right?
Ill tell you what. I am placing a challenge to myself, and anyone who wants to sit and watch some cards come out of the shoes at wind creek, or any PA casino for the matter. I prefer wind creek because its by my home and its close to me.
The goal is to predict as many cards that come out of an 8 deck shoe and record the results if we can. I can do it on the stadium blackjack pretty well.
Ill even put up my own money to show you how I play, and what I do, and possibly show you how predictable these shoes can be, for everyone at the table.
What I will say is that, usually, when the amount of players increases such as at an actual table, my "prediction" skills get worse and worse, so usually 2 players plus the dealer, i am able to do what I think I can do which is predict the cards that come out in the orders that they come out in.
If what I am thinking is all in my mind, we will then prove that Im batshit crazy, and I will never speak about these rigged shuffers ever again, no matter how many people you have come here to complain about that subject, ill never chime in again.
Trust me Zcore, zenking didnt go crazy in a PA casino for no reason at all.
I didnt draw small crowds of asians, make a bunch of degen friends just because I was playing blackjack, they visibly saw a difference in how I played and i play basic strategy just like everyone else, but I was usually able to "turn things around" when it got bad because people dont play EXACT basic strategy. I know how to play those shoes like a fiddle, and I am well liked over at wind creek. The "heat" that people talk about, I get it all the time. I have pit managers focused on what I am doing because they dont understand when I make correct predictions. They become my friends because I am a friendly person who just seems to be having fun, but still able to maintain these crazy predictions throughout the game.
At one point, I had a dealer slow play, turn to the pit manager and plead that I knew what the cards were and could predict them. He didnt think that I could, and maybe I cant.
But im willing to meet anyone who wants to put me up to the callenge.
Card prediction challenge 2020!
And i dont want anything in return, except someone from here to at least say that I was able to predict alot of cards and that its a POSSIBILITY that something might be going on with the shufflers, but you dont have to admit it fully haha.
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It's a 4 hour drive each way for me and I get exhausted just driving for 90 minutes and I have to take a half hour nap. So it's more like 6 hours each way for me. I'll have to be on my win a free hotel room comp run to even consider going this far.
Quote: heatmapSo what would you do if you sat down at my table and i "predicted" the exact hand that the dealer would get... is that random to you?
i should not be able to say something is reliably going to happen if its random right?
Ill tell you what. I am placing a challenge to myself, and anyone who wants to sit and watch some cards come out of the shoes at wind creek, or any PA casino for the matter. I prefer wind creek because its by my home and its close to me.
The goal is to predict as many cards that come out of an 8 deck shoe and record the results if we can. I can do it on the stadium blackjack pretty well.
Ill even put up my own money to show you how I play, and what I do, and possibly show you how predictable these shoes can be, for everyone at the table.
What I will say is that, usually, when the amount of players increases such as at an actual table, my "prediction" skills get worse and worse, so usually 2 players plus the dealer, i am able to do what I think I can do which is predict the cards that come out in the orders that they come out in.
If what I am thinking is all in my mind, we will then prove that Im batshit crazy, and I will never speak about these rigged shuffers ever again, no matter how many people you have come here to complain about that subject, ill never chime in again.
Trust me Zcore, zenking didnt go crazy in a PA casino for no reason at all.
I didnt draw small crowds of asians, make a bunch of degen friends just because I was playing blackjack, they visibly saw a difference in how I played and i play basic strategy just like everyone else, but I was usually able to "turn things around" when it got bad because people dont play EXACT basic strategy. I know how to play those shoes like a fiddle, and I am well liked over at wind creek. The "heat" that people talk about, I get it all the time. I have pit managers focused on what I am doing because they dont understand when I make correct predictions. They become my friends because I am a friendly person who just seems to be having fun, but still able to maintain these crazy predictions throughout the game.
At one point, I had a dealer slow play, turn to the pit manager and plead that I knew what the cards were and could predict them. He didnt think that I could, and maybe I cant.
But im willing to meet anyone who wants to put me up to the callenge.
Card prediction challenge 2020!
And i dont want anything in return, except someone from here to at least say that I was able to predict alot of cards and that its a POSSIBILITY that something might be going on with the shufflers, but you dont have to admit it fully haha.
If you're so good at predicting the cards, don't say a word and win the most hands you can, betting big when you will beat the dealer and betting table min when you know you will lose!
This could help you and it's in your area: Jenna L. Jebitsch, PsyD, 264 E Broad St, Bethlehem, PA 18018, États-Unis
This is the closest to the casino after talking to the Valet.
Quote: heatmapSo what would you do if you sat down at my table and i "predicted" the exact hand that the dealer would get... is that random to you?
i should not be able to say something is reliably going to happen if its random right?
Ill tell you what. I am placing a challenge to myself, and anyone who wants to sit and watch some cards come out of the shoes at wind creek, or any PA casino for the matter. I prefer wind creek because its by my home and its close to me.
The goal is to predict as many cards that come out of an 8 deck shoe and record the results if we can. I can do it on the stadium blackjack pretty well.
Ill even put up my own money to show you how I play, and what I do, and possibly show you how predictable these shoes can be, for everyone at the table.
What I will say is that, usually, when the amount of players increases such as at an actual table, my "prediction" skills get worse and worse, so usually 2 players plus the dealer, i am able to do what I think I can do which is predict the cards that come out in the orders that they come out in.
If what I am thinking is all in my mind, we will then prove that Im batshit crazy, and I will never speak about these rigged shuffers ever again, no matter how many people you have come here to complain about that subject, ill never chime in again.
Trust me Zcore, zenking didnt go crazy in a PA casino for no reason at all.
I didnt draw small crowds of asians, make a bunch of degen friends just because I was playing blackjack, they visibly saw a difference in how I played and i play basic strategy just like everyone else, but I was usually able to "turn things around" when it got bad because people dont play EXACT basic strategy. I know how to play those shoes like a fiddle, and I am well liked over at wind creek. The "heat" that people talk about, I get it all the time. I have pit managers focused on what I am doing because they dont understand when I make correct predictions. They become my friends because I am a friendly person who just seems to be having fun, but still able to maintain these crazy predictions throughout the game.
At one point, I had a dealer slow play, turn to the pit manager and plead that I knew what the cards were and could predict them. He didnt think that I could, and maybe I cant.
But im willing to meet anyone who wants to put me up to the callenge.
Card prediction challenge 2020!
And i dont want anything in return, except someone from here to at least say that I was able to predict alot of cards and that its a POSSIBILITY that something might be going on with the shufflers, but you dont have to admit it fully haha.
I'd be very careful discussing these things. Multiple intelligence agencies have been known to monitor these sites and a man of your abilities may find himself "rendered" into working for one of them. how would you feel if you were pressed into service , making puppies heads explode remotely. Go watch Firestarter if you think it can't happen here.
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Quote: GManIf you're so good at predicting the cards, don't say a word and win the most hands you can, betting big when you will beat the dealer and betting table min when you know you will lose!
This could help you and it's in your area: Jenna L. Jebitsch, PsyD, 264 E Broad St, Bethlehem, PA 18018, États-Unis
This is the closest to the casino after talking to the Valet.
I’m talking about dealt cards, and the one putter that the dealer needs to win over everyone
Quote: heatmapI’m talking about dealt cards, and the one putter that the dealer needs to win over everyone
I'd ask the dealer to stop practicing his short game and focus on dealing the cards.
Quote: billryanI'd be very careful discussing these things. Multiple intelligence agencies have been known to monitor these sites and a man of your abilities may find himself "rendered" into working for one of them. how would you feel if you were pressed into service , making puppies heads explode remotely. Go watch Firestarter if you think it can't happen here.
Not true. Intelligence agencies have not "been known to monitor these sites." This is another untruthful fabrication. Using a movie based on a Stephen King fictional novel is a ridiculous source.
With comments about "making puppies heads explode remotely" Bill is unfairly denigrating people who work or have worked in intelligence agencies, such as myself. Intelligence agencies have amazing capabilities and Bill has no idea what he is talking about here.
No wonder billryan is climbing the list of "most frequent posters." Mostly, he spams this site with short angry posts that put down people and have a sneering tone. IMO, many posts (such as this one) contribute no content to the forum of lasting value.
Quote: heatmapSo what would you do if you sat down at my table and i "predicted" the exact hand that the dealer would get... is that random to you?
i should not be able to say something is reliably going to happen if its random right?
Ill tell you what. I am placing a challenge to myself, and anyone who wants to sit and watch some cards come out of the shoes at wind creek, or any PA casino for the matter. I prefer wind creek because its by my home and its close to me.
The goal is to predict as many cards that come out of an 8 deck shoe and record the results if we can. I can do it on the stadium blackjack pretty well.
Ill even put up my own money to show you how I play, and what I do, and possibly show you how predictable these shoes can be, for everyone at the table.
What I will say is that, usually, when the amount of players increases such as at an actual table, my "prediction" skills get worse and worse, so usually 2 players plus the dealer, i am able to do what I think I can do which is predict the cards that come out in the orders that they come out in.
If what I am thinking is all in my mind, we will then prove that Im batshit crazy, and I will never speak about these rigged shuffers ever again, no matter how many people you have come here to complain about that subject, ill never chime in again.
Trust me Zcore, zenking didnt go crazy in a PA casino for no reason at all.
I didnt draw small crowds of asians, make a bunch of degen friends just because I was playing blackjack, they visibly saw a difference in how I played and i play basic strategy just like everyone else, but I was usually able to "turn things around" when it got bad because people dont play EXACT basic strategy. I know how to play those shoes like a fiddle, and I am well liked over at wind creek. The "heat" that people talk about, I get it all the time. I have pit managers focused on what I am doing because they dont understand when I make correct predictions. They become my friends because I am a friendly person who just seems to be having fun, but still able to maintain these crazy predictions throughout the game.
At one point, I had a dealer slow play, turn to the pit manager and plead that I knew what the cards were and could predict them. He didnt think that I could, and maybe I cant.
But im willing to meet anyone who wants to put me up to the callenge.
Card prediction challenge 2020!
And i dont want anything in return, except someone from here to at least say that I was able to predict alot of cards and that its a POSSIBILITY that something might be going on with the shufflers, but you dont have to admit it fully haha.
You should put some money on it to see if any willing onlookers will take some action. Seems like a good way to offset your losses if card prediction is working for you. Also seems like you should find a baccarat table with the same shuffling machine so when you realize the next hand is gonna screw you and your fellow players you can bet the opposing player/banker so you make money of this.
Quote: Viper21You should put some money on it to see if any willing onlookers will take some action. Seems like a good way to offset your losses if card prediction is working for you. Also seems like you should find a baccarat table with the same shuffling machine so when you realize the next hand is gonna screw you and your fellow players you can bet the opposing player/banker so you make money of this.
if you search through my posts, i once got cocky and said that I actually offered to pay for someone to do the "correct" move. I said i would either take the bet myself, or pay if she lost the bet. She didnt want to take the bet, but i convinced her to do it because of how sure i am.
ive had this one lady who knew i was a regular, she was really down on her luck and we played together until she made some money back.
Ive tried it all and im still going back. I know what it is im seeing. Ive said above, that i sometimes actually get a crowd of asians (before covid happened) who would cheer me on and what not.
I dont know how many more ways that i can say this guys
and to be honest, the only baccarat i play is when everyone is sitting at the table not doing anything, and i like to plop a random bet on the table and see what happens.
Quote: gordonm888Not true. Intelligence agencies have not "been known to monitor these sites." This is another untruthful fabrication. Using a movie based on a Stephen King fictional novel is a ridiculous source.
With comments about "making puppies heads explode remotely" Bill is unfairly denigrating people who work or have worked in intelligence agencies, such as myself. Intelligence agencies have amazing capabilities and Bill has no idea what he is talking about here.
No wonder billryan is climbing the list of "most frequent posters." Mostly, he spams this site with short angry posts that put down people and have a sneering tone. IMO, many posts (such as this one) contribute no content to the forum of lasting value.
Green simply isn't your color.
Or put money on Insurance before the cards are even dealt and say "I want pre-insurance insurance!!!"
I was planning a trip to wind creek if only to have a day of gambling with my girlfriend at my side (Wind Creek still has the Fun Zone which watches kids while grown ups gamble?)
I'm not sure what it is I'm supposed to be seeing. So please go over it again for me.
And is it the same for Baccarat or just happens with blackjack? That's important because your theory is easier to prove in Baccarat.
I've been to Wind Creek Bethlehem. You are giving them far too much credit for being that savvy.
Quote: heatmapOk I am no longer considering this as something that is out of the ordinary. I am considering it something that is deliberate, or a bi-product of the shuffle machines.
The other day I decided to go to wind creek bethlehem. I am alone at my own table, 15 dollar minimum, and im not doing too bad. I was almost out of money before i got a split with a double and won my money back plus a little bit.
First thing, and yeah yeah i know youve heard it so many times most likely, but before you go to the normal responses, i think its time to revisit this subject.
The subject im referring to is adding a player to the game. Adding a player to the game of blackjack, within PA casinos, or possibly because of the way the shufflers shuffle the cards, a blackjack appears on the table. Mostly IMO for the dealer.
Heres the rest of the story.
So i win most of my money back, and this guy is hovering behind me, an older gentleman, who is courteous enough to wait and sit down after a few of my hands. I am also a believer that adding a person screws my winning up but thats another story for another day as to why I think it happens - which it did i lost when he started playing but then...
After he sat down, just to cover my bases, I said to him " i know this is a bunch of bullish but i say it to most people that usually when someone sits at these tables in between a shoe, the dealer gets blackjack. And i know its bullish because if its random this wont happen at all."
well wouldnt you know the dealer gets a blackjack
WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN??????
It is called variance.
Quote: MintyIf your claim is that you're able to accurately predict cards I don't really believe it. If it's that you're being cheated in some way I'm still suspect. The former has been claimed by many people and sounds like superstition and the latter is just unlikely.
well i am not claiming cheating, nor am i claiming to accurately predict cards, just that i can predict a significant amount within an 8 deck shoe, or we can sit and watch the stadium blackjack and i can go for an amount of cards within a period of time.
Quote: MintyIsn't the only logical thing to do then bet max when you are predicting good stuff and next to nothing when you're predicting something bad?
No I have never ever said I was predicting good or bad.
I’m saying, I see some cards come out, and I can - at least I seriously think I can - predict the next card or total of the next N cards.
Sometimes I say a number and the total of those cards is the number I say.
Sometimes I’m one too late.
Sometimes I’m wrong.
I should be wrong most of the time... but I want to possibly confirm with others if I am just crazy or have something.
Quote: heatmapNo I have never ever said I was predicting good or bad.
I’m saying, I see some cards come out, and I can - at least I seriously think I can - predict the next card or total of the next N cards.
Sometimes I say a number and the total of those cards is the number I say.
Sometimes I’m one too late.
Sometimes I’m wrong.
I should be wrong most of the time... but I want to possibly confirm with others if I am just crazy or have something.
I'll be polite. What you are experiencing is called confirmation bias. If you say.... the next card will be a face card, and it is, you make a note of it that you are great at predicting cards. 4/13 times you fool yourself into thinking you have some special ability. 9/13 times you are wrong, but it just doesn't register as an event worth remembering.
I do it while watching golf. If I watch a guy line up an 8 foot putt, a pro will make it 50% of the time, miss left 25%, miss right 25%. I'll say to myself...looks like he's aiming too far left, and if he misses left, I think I actually saw something that is a skill I have. If he drains the putt, or misses right, I don't think much of it.
