Stadium Blackjack Strategy Difference?

I was wondering if there was any difference in basic strategy for Stadium Blackjack vs "normal".

Specifically, in regular blackjack the dealer's hole card is already dealt. In stadium blackjack I played at Venetian this past weekend, the dealer's hole card is determined when you stop taking cards - the next card then becomes the dealer's hole card.

Would there be a case where basic strategy is altered because if you don't hit (take the next card), then that same card will then become the the dealer's "hole" card?

I hope I explained my question well.

As long as you don't lose splits and doubles to a dealer bj, then it's irrelevant whether the dealer takes the hole card first, last, or in the middle.

It is not when the dealer gets the card - it is that the dealer gets your next card if you decide to stand.

For instance suppose you're dealt 4-3 and the dealer shows 6. If the next card is a ten would that help you more than it would hurt the dealer? (17-6 vs 7-16) There is a linkage that exists in stadium than does not exist in normal blackjack.

No, there isn't. It's irrelevant if you don't know the card.

Quote: CaliAli

It is not when the dealer gets the card - it is that the dealer gets your next card if you decide to stand.

For instance suppose you're dealt 4-3 and the dealer shows 6. If the next card is a ten would that help you more than it would hurt the dealer? (17-6 vs 7-16) There is a linkage that exists in stadium than does not exist in normal blackjack.

even if you don’t hit, if anyone else hits, then that next card gets used up.

It doesn’t matter strategy wise. But even if you wanted the dealer to get the next card. how can you control what the other players do ?

Quote: sabre

As long as you don't lose splits and doubles to a dealer bj, then it's irrelevant whether the dealer takes the hole card first, last, or in the middle.

It’s not irrelevant. It affects EV calculations when comparing hitting to standing if you can’t eliminate a T hole card when the dealer is showing an A.

Quote: unJon

It’s not irrelevant. It affects EV calculations when comparing hitting to standing if you can’t eliminate a T hole card when the dealer is showing an A.

It sounded like the OP was not referring to those type of strategy changes.

He just wants to cause the dealer to get one unseen hole card instead of another unseen hole card.

That is incorrect. The dealer draw two cards for the player and one card for the dealer. Then the dealer draws out "community cards" until every player has either stood or busted, and if any players have not busted, then draws more cards if needed until the dealer's hand is finished for all players who have stood. The dealer's hand is different for players that make different decisions.
For instance:
Say you have 10-2 vs dealer 6.
All players have the the same hand.
One player stands and the other hits.
Dealer draws a 4
The second player now stands.
The first player now has 10-2 vs dealers 6-4
The second players has 10-2-4 vs dealers 6
The dealer draws a 10
First player now has 10-2 vs dealers 6-4-10 - dealer has 20 and the first player loses.
Second players now has 10-2-4 vs dealer 6-10
The dealer draws another 10
First player has already lost
Second player now has 10-2-4 vs dealer 6-10-10 - dealer has busted and the second player wins.

In this instance the dealers hole card was 4 for the first player and 10 for the second player.

Quote: sabre

As long as you don't lose splits and doubles to a dealer bj, then it's irrelevant whether the dealer takes the hole card first, last, or in the middle.

This is correct.

In stadium poker you can't affect other hands (like being third base and and taking the dealers bust card).

But you are basically playing heads up and instead of taking the dealers (possible) bust card you are taking the dealers hole card.
I don't know if there is a difference in odds and even if there is the difference is enough to affect basic strategy. I've scoured the internet looking for a discussion on why or why not it, but haven't found anything.

I think maybe I'll program a special stadium simulator and do a few million hands and see if I find anything.

Quote: michael99000

even if you don’t hit, if anyone else hits, then that next card gets used up.

It doesn’t matter strategy wise. But even if you wanted the dealer to get the next card. how can you control what the other players do ?

That’s not how stadium BJ works.

After everyone makes a decision, the dealer draws a card. That card will be used on every terminal based on the decision the player made.

IE. If you hit and someone else stands, that card goes on your hand on your terminal, while it goes on the dealer’s hand on the other terminal.

Etc.

Quote: unJon

It’s not irrelevant. It affects EV calculations when comparing hitting to standing if you can’t eliminate a T hole card when the dealer is showing an A.

Not if you only lose your original bet. You're free to assume the dealer doesn't have a T. If he does, your decisions were irrelevant since you were losing the hand regardless of how you played.

Quote: sabre

Not if you only lose your original bet. You're free to assume the dealer doesn't have a T. If he does, your decisions were irrelevant since you were losing the hand regardless of how you played.

Oh duh, good point. Thanks.

Quote: DJTeddyBear

That’s not how stadium BJ works.

After everyone makes a decision, the dealer draws a card. That card will be used on every terminal based on the decision the player made.

IE. If you hit and someone else stands, that card goes on your hand on your terminal, while it goes on the dealer’s hand on the other terminal.

Etc.

Ok I was thinking of Unlimited Blackjack on online casinos.