It's not 6/5 that's killing this game...
$5 went the way of the dinosaurs a few years ago.
Does anyone know of any S17 game, anywhere?
3/2 blackjack? $15 minimum.
At least surrender is still out there. That's probably because most fools think that insuring a hard 20 (which by itself uses up TWO of the tens you think might be under the dealer's ace) is a wise investment.
All of these changes in the game, while increasing the house edge, kept my dream alive, albeit with greater risk and, probably, extended time at the casino to account for a broader swing of fortune with the decreased odds and larger bets.
But.
Eight decks.
I'm done.
I can't afford a $50 or $100 minimum table in order to get a six deck game. Did I mention I was retired? Fixed income.
How many folks you think are hanging around 1 $100 table at 9 AM on a Tuesday? Every Tuesday. Think I'm going to fly under the radar? Not a chance.
Of all the things they did, eight decks is what killed it for me.
The bastards.
However, surrender is hard to find in AC in anything below 100.
Maybe retire in a country that has gambling a low cost of living? Especially if you do not have any ties to where you currently live.
Good oral hygiene, high quality sleep, melatonin pills and ultrasound will do that.Quote: racquetCounting cards would keep my mind sharp and delay the onset of dementia or some other mind-numbing illness.
Give it a try.Quote: racquetI can't afford a $50 or $100 minimum table in order to get a six deck game. Did I mention I was retired? Fixed income.
I can't see how dumpy regional casinos or anything in dumpy Atlantic City could have any BJ tables that come anywhere near the low house edge you will find all over Vegas. Who wants comps from dumpy places anyway? By dumpy I don't necessarily mean "Motel 6" I just mean dumpy compared to the top resorts in Vegas.
Quote: sabreCan someone explain to me why someone would be ok playing 6 decks but not 8 decks?
If you are not counting the difference is negligible.
I actually prefer more decks for flat play because less shuffle breaks and longer play time.
Furthermore, how can that level of play be generating any comps at all? I remember playing on that level like that 15 years ago and that wasn't even good enough for a drink, let alone a whole meal.
Quote: TigerWuI guess someone smarter than I can do the math on this, but I can't imagine that the difference between 6 and 8 decks has any practical bearing whatsoever when you're playing two hours a day for $5 a hand just for fun.
Furthermore, how can that level of play be generating any comps at all? I remember playing on that level like that 15 years ago and that wasn't even good enough for a drink, let alone a whole meal.
I think a pretty good comp estimate is 1/3 of your average bet per hour. So it would not surprise me if a $5 player would get $1.50 an hour in comps. Playing 8 hours a day should get someone one cheap comped meal per day.
Is that a euphemism for losing?Quote: TigerWuwhen you're playing ................... just for fun.
Quote: GandlerIf you are not counting the difference is negligible.
I actually prefer more decks for flat play because less shuffle breaks and longer play time.
For a non advantage player, the fewer hands per hour is better. It's one of the most insidious things about a CSM. You end up playing more hands against the house edge. The only time the player isn't at a disadvantage is during the shuffle break.
If one can count six decks, they can count eight decks.
Quote: heatmapI dont know if you live anywhere near PA but I know that Mount Airy has $5 games but they are 8 decks. They have surrender, and stand on soft 17. The price goes up during popular days but any other time they are cheap. This may be outdated info but occasionally i mention it to people and they agree that they still have $5 tables
Haven't seen any $5 tables at Mount Airy recently, though $10 is still wide spread with $15 when it gets real busy. 8 Decks but the good PA rules.
Quote: DRichI think a pretty good comp estimate is 1/3 of your average bet per hour. So it would not surprise me if a $5 player would get $1.50 an hour in comps. Playing 8 hours a day should get someone one cheap comped meal per day.
If you follow Jean Scott, you can pretty much eat for free weekdays with minimal play and risk. It's more about comp sucking than actually gambling but it beats dumpster diving or panhandling.
Quote: billryanIf you follow Jean Scott, you can pretty much eat for free weekdays with minimal play and risk. It's more about comp sucking than actually gambling but it beats dumpster diving or panhandling.
This forum has some self proclaimed experts at dumpster diving. I wonder if they would agree with that?
Thought it was Washington State according to Sir Munchkin?Quote: GWAEMove to PA , we have all that.
Quote: DRichI think a pretty good comp estimate is 1/3 of your average bet per hour. So it would not surprise me if a $5 player would get $1.50 an hour in comps. Playing 8 hours a day should get someone one cheap comped meal per day.
That's about the bare minimum someone should expect. About five to 10 years ago, most of the big off-strip places were advertising comped buffets starting at one hour at $5. Spread $5 to $25 with the count and likely can likely a discretionary comp after one to two hours just by asking.
In Las Vegas there doesn't seem to be much shortage of 3-2 games at six decks or less. Just yesterday: completely empty table at 7:00 on a Friday night at Sante Fe. Dealer hits soft 17
Quote: billryanFor a non advantage player, the fewer hands per hour is better. It's one of the most insidious things about a CSM. You end up playing more hands against the house edge. The only time the player isn't at a disadvantage is during the shuffle break.
If one can count six decks, they can count eight decks.
It depends. I would rather just play and go on a winning or losing streak. I do not like to sit at the table for hours and just ride it. I prefer just having more play time and less shuffle time. 8 deck show with 1-3 players is fun for me.
Quote: FleaStiffIs that a euphemism for losing?
It's a euphemism for "I don't care if I win or lose."
Quote: billryanIf you follow Jean Scott, you can pretty much eat for free weekdays with minimal play and risk. It's more about comp sucking than actually gambling but it beats dumpster diving or panhandling.
Sure, but not by much.
Don't equate the two, Dumpster diving is surely the pits, but panhandling at least means i'm working.Quote: billryanbut it beats dumpster diving or panhandling.
I have met AC Techs and electricians past 65. Be careful with high voltage. I will be a part time AC Tech til I die. There is such a demand for AC techs that it should easy to find openings
Quote: jjjooogggI met someone who does day trading. Maybe that would be a good retirement.
I have met AC Techs and electricians past 65. Be careful with high voltage. I will be a part time AC Tech til I die. There is such a demand for AC techs that it should easy to find openings
On one hand I would love to day trade. OTOH, I would rather handicap sports and just make a few bets, then kill time in other pursuits. Hard part on Day Trading is it is actual work. You need to specialize 2-3 stocks and handicap them same as a sports bettor handicaps games.
