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February 16th, 2019 at 5:24:15 PM permalink
I walk around my casino watching everyone play. Circling like a shark, I see people trying to beat the casino. Anyone who attempts to play usually catches a bad streak and get up and rleave usually because they lose. After they leave I purposely take their place and proceed to normally win. Is this morally wrong to allow someone to take the "brunt" of the losses which normally set me up to win? This doesnt always work out like i say but this has been my strategy and something i have noticed since day one which works.
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February 16th, 2019 at 5:46:48 PM permalink
The morality is perfectly acceptable. The logic is not.
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February 16th, 2019 at 5:47:47 PM permalink
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I walk around my casino watching everyone play. Circling like a shark, I see people trying to beat the casino. Anyone who attempts to play usually catches a bad streak and get up and rleave usually because they lose. After they leave I purposely take their place and proceed to normally win. Is this morally wrong to allow someone to take the "brunt" of the losses which normally set me up to win? This doesnt always work out like i say but this has been my strategy and something i have noticed since day one which works.



I don't think what you are doing is wrong. I ended up doing something kind of similar myself the other day. I ended up vulturing a machine . This certain game gives you wilds at the end of 10 games judging by how many jewels you have. So, I saw that the game was on game 3 and abandoned and I knew I only had to play 7 more games before I had the chance to win a lot of jewels/wilds. I said "I'm going to take advantage of this abandoned game!" And I played the 7 games and unfortunately, the wilds ended up matching lesser paying symbols and I actually lost $1. But if I had matched the top paying symbol, I could have had a $50 profit.
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February 16th, 2019 at 6:10:00 PM permalink
I just see it as if I didn’t know these people had tried so hard that when it I would ever come in after they it might be considered fair for everyone and not that I was waiting
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February 16th, 2019 at 6:33:34 PM permalink
You realize this is ridiculous, right?

The cards/dice/ball have no memory.
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February 16th, 2019 at 6:52:21 PM permalink
There is a guy named ZenKing you should follow.
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February 16th, 2019 at 7:04:17 PM permalink
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You realize this is ridiculous, right? The cards/dice/ball have no memory.



And yet they remember to play the same
games over and over. You know how you
can tap a glass with a fork and it will ring
with the same note every time? That's
called 'memory' in the science community.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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February 16th, 2019 at 7:23:33 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

And yet they remember to play the same
games over and over. You know how you
can tap a glass with a fork and it will ring
with the same note every time? That's
called 'memory' in the science community.


I can’t quite decipher this.

Are we getting some insight into your roulette AP play?
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February 16th, 2019 at 7:40:37 PM permalink
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I can’t quite decipher this.



I was making a joke. And pointing out
that some inanimate do have a memory.
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February 16th, 2019 at 8:35:02 PM permalink
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I was making a joke. And pointing out
that some inanimate do have a memory.



Memory implies that the object has a capability to remember. The immutable laws of physics don't mean that all objects have memory because they behave the same when interacted with.

The glass will have a different tone if it is moving towards or away from you. If will have a different tone if the air pressure is any different. If will not make a sound in a vacuum.
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February 16th, 2019 at 8:42:01 PM permalink
Gamblers fallacy.
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February 16th, 2019 at 9:52:29 PM permalink
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Anyone who attempts to play usually catches a bad streak and get up and rleave usually because they lose. After they leave I purposely take their place and proceed to normally win.

Taking advantage of other people's dueness is a a horrible thing to do.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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February 16th, 2019 at 9:58:40 PM permalink
Quote: heatmap

I walk around my casino watching everyone play. Circling like a shark, I see people trying to beat the casino. Anyone who attempts to play usually catches a bad streak and get up and rleave usually because they lose. After they leave I purposely take their place and proceed to normally win. Is this morally wrong to allow someone to take the "brunt" of the losses which normally set me up to win? This doesnt always work out like i say but this has been my strategy and something i have noticed since day one which works.



Are you related to Nathan?


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February 16th, 2019 at 10:01:44 PM permalink
Remember when people used to get backroomed for bringing a barometer to the casino? Love these cell phones with poker tournament apps. When is the $15 buy-in tournament?
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February 16th, 2019 at 11:18:42 PM permalink
Quote: heatmap

I walk around my casino watching everyone play. Circling like a shark, I see people trying to beat the casino. Anyone who attempts to play usually catches a bad streak and get up and rleave usually because they lose. After they leave I purposely take their place and proceed to normally win. Is this morally wrong to allow someone to take the "brunt" of the losses which normally set me up to win? This doesnt always work out like i say but this has been my strategy and something i have noticed since day one which works.



Do you have a voodoo doll perched on your shoulder while you do it?
or maybe a rabbit's foot in your pocket?
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February 16th, 2019 at 11:18:49 PM permalink
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Are you related to Nathan?


ZCore13



No he is not related to me, but I did admit I did something very similar with the Jewel/Wilds game. :)
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February 17th, 2019 at 1:22:30 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Do you have a voodoo doll perched on your shoulder while you do it?
or maybe a rabbit's foot in your pocket?

Monkey? :o)
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February 17th, 2019 at 6:57:55 AM permalink
Sometimes I play two hands to change the flow of the cards
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February 17th, 2019 at 8:36:47 AM permalink
I never considered this to be the gamblers fallacy but thank you to everyone who pointed that out

My logic goes like this :

What are the chances an entire shoe loses every hand? I see these people who seem to hit bad streaks of which are so mind blowing to them that they walk away because they think going to another table will help them. Admittedly I do this too, but if you see the “streaks of bad luck” that happen you would as well. More of the fallacy at work.
Beyond that, I find that, and have been successful so far (more fallacy), that waiting and going up to the tables after someone has exhausted what seems to be a bad streak of luck that if following a hit and run strategy the next couple of hands are usually successful.

More fallacy I guess
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February 17th, 2019 at 8:44:19 AM permalink
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Sometimes I play two hands to change the flow of the cards

How's that working out for you?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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February 17th, 2019 at 8:48:10 AM permalink
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More fallacy I guess

Or it's time to quit your day job and bump up your bets. #foolproof
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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February 17th, 2019 at 9:01:48 AM permalink
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How's that working out for you?




I also walk around my chair counterclockwise three times clapping my hands after each loss to ward off the evil blackjack spirits
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February 17th, 2019 at 9:15:26 AM permalink
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I also walk around my chair counterclockwise three times clapping my hands after each loss to ward off the evil blackjack spirits



You do that too?? I was doing it backwards this entire time and I paid a psychic for that routine
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February 17th, 2019 at 9:18:51 AM permalink
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Or it's time to quit your day job and bump up your bets. #foolproof



I make about equal pay and honestly and with my day job I only have one way to go and that’s up this is just how I play in the world and the variance is too much to compete with a job that has zero variance I always get paid there is no if ands or buts
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February 17th, 2019 at 9:47:12 AM permalink
Many people claim to understand the Sacred Flow of the Cards but few can exploit it long term. Others may scoff, but they simply don't understand.
Sad to say it but even mentioning TSFOTCs to most skeptics gets you labeled a misguided crackpot to those who worship " the maths".
Few humans accurately can see the patterns in the Flow. Ignore the naysayers.
Just be aware that the Cards made by Chinese political prisoners don't Flow as well as when they are made by the Free People's.
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February 17th, 2019 at 11:12:12 AM permalink
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I also walk around my chair counterclockwise three times clapping my hands after each loss to ward off the evil blackjack spirits



Walking around the chair won't work.
You have to jump up and down 3 times
while rapidly clapping your hands.
Works everytime it's tried..
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February 18th, 2019 at 12:25:14 PM permalink
No. No. That's not it. You name the evil spirits. For me, it's Darrell and my other bother Darrell. That way I can tell them to go sit by someone else.
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February 18th, 2019 at 2:16:59 PM permalink
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You do that too?? I was doing it backwards this entire time and I paid a psychic for that routine



When the shoe is cold, simply play 2 hands to “change things up”.
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February 18th, 2019 at 2:51:08 PM permalink
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When the shoe is cold, simply play 2 hands to “change things up”.

When the shoe is cold, bet more. Maybe the count is good.
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February 18th, 2019 at 3:16:29 PM permalink
What you're describing is known as a cooler.

There is really only one cooler known to exist; it's William H. Macy in the movie of the same name. :-) .

(If you haven't seen it then make sure that you do- he's at his best in it).
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February 18th, 2019 at 3:27:59 PM permalink
I'm a cooler, but only against myself.
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February 18th, 2019 at 4:33:59 PM permalink
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I walk around my casino watching everyone play. Circling like a shark, I see people trying to beat the casino. Anyone who attempts to play usually catches a bad streak and get up and rleave usually because they lose. After they leave I purposely take their place and proceed to normally win. Is this morally wrong to allow someone to take the "brunt" of the losses which normally set me up to win? This doesnt always work out like i say but this has been my strategy and something i have noticed since day one which works.


You walk around and identify cold seats then bet into the cold streak?
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February 18th, 2019 at 4:44:08 PM permalink
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Is this morally wrong to allow someone to take the "brunt" of the losses which normally set me up to win? This doesnt always work out like i say but this has been my strategy and something i have noticed since day one which works.



It is immoral to let a sucker keep their money.
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