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Zcore13
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January 5th, 2019 at 4:21:58 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

Just so everyone knows, when Zcore loses an argument or anyone in a higher authority position such as the government, who tries to misconstrue information for their own personal gain, they resort to either personal attacks, off topic moral standards, or simply saying it wont work or youll lose, completely ignoring all the facts and changing the subject. When this happens, you realize there was an agenda all along if they cant admit they were wrong.

Casinos are committing serious felonies every day trespassing counters. Its time someone brings the truth to light. Ive laid out the roadmap of how to do it. It will probably end up being me that has to take them to court for this since everyone else is comfortable with their life and nothing is 'worth it' for anyone anymore. Sad state of affairs this society.



I'll visit you when you are in jail. As a matter of fact, I'll even bail you out so you can save your tiny bankroll for all the legal expenses.

When you get out I'll spend some time with you at your palace teaching you about the Government branches and other life lessons. I'll drive though. Your car doesn't sound very safe.

PM me beforehand so I can take a little paid time off from work. I've got over 200 hours.


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I am an employee of a Casino. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.
ZenKinG
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January 5th, 2019 at 4:32:54 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Talk about a total lack of understanding and misrepresentation of facts.

AC struggling had next to nothing to do with BJ rules and changes.

PA and other states around them opening casinos killed the customer base they almost exclusively had other than MS and NV. As competition opened in almost every state around them, they had too many casinos for the volume of customers.

And now they have seemed to have found a rebirth with the Opening of Hard Rock and Ocean. Probably still need to reduce 1 or 2 more but feel free to see if MGM feels Borgata is a Ghost Town.

And no, your little fight and threats will not change anything, but if it makes you feel better, you go right ahead. After all, isnít that what your generation is all about? Being made to feel good for anything you do. Iíll pitch in for your participation trophy. You deserve it at a minimum.



First off, way to ignore the part of me stating exactly what you said about competing competition in nearby states. You would also be surprised at how much the BJ games deteriorating added to the fire of people not wanting to go to AC anymore since it is the most popular table game in the world after all and word of mouth spreads even if the average player isnt aware that it deteriorated, but once they go there and lose quicker than is usual they start listening to the word of mouth telling them theres better games elsewhere.

Ive also been on the record that supports AC for the future saying that it would be a smart time to buy real estate in the area before the Hard Rock opened up. I smell a rebirth as well but it might take 5 or maybe 10 years until its back.
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
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January 5th, 2019 at 4:35:26 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

I'll visit you when you are in jail. As a matter of fact, I'll even bail you out so you can save your tiny bankroll for all the legal expenses.

When you get out I'll spend some time with you at your palace teaching you about the Government branches and other life lessons. I'll drive though. Your car doesn't sound very safe.

PM me beforehand so I can take a little paid time off from work. I've got over 200 hours.


ZCore13



Ahh the good old 'Youre going to jail' fear mongering statement that is constamtly perpetrated by higher level figures including the government when their agenda fails to convince people.
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
billryan
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January 5th, 2019 at 4:46:06 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

Ahh the good old 'Youre going to jail' fear mongering statement that is constamtly perpetrated by higher level figures including the government when their agenda fails to convince people.



I thought you wanted to go to jail?
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January 5th, 2019 at 4:49:19 PM permalink
Hasn't this battle already been fought: SLADE v. CAESARS ENTERTAINMENT CORPORATION LLC.

Nevertheless, I admire those who fight on principle against long odds, even when I don't necessarily agree with their cause. ZK, would you be interested in submitting a formal article, summarizing your position on this matter?
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January 5th, 2019 at 4:57:47 PM permalink
You want him to lay out his secret plan to make the word safe for cardcounters? They got to you, didn't they?
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January 5th, 2019 at 5:07:25 PM permalink
The current state of Nevada law on the issue of right to exclude is that casinos can exclude patrons for any reason so long as the reason is not unlawful.

Per the Slade case:

The only unlawful bases to exclude would be based on consideration of a patron's "race, color, creed, national origin, or sex."

"Dr. Slade failed to demonstrate that his exclusion was for an unlawful reason."

"Dr. Slade does not argue on appeal, nor did he litigate at district court, that he was excluded from Caesars' properties for an unlawful reason."

My take: in Nevada, they can toss you for counting cards, end of story.
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January 5th, 2019 at 5:08:41 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

You want him to lay out his secret plan to make the word safe for cardcounters? They got to you, didn't they?



Let's lower the temperature and try to be courteous.


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January 5th, 2019 at 5:13:11 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Let's lower the temperature and try to be courteous.

Aw c'mon Wizard. I might often disagree with BillRyan, but I did see good humour in his post. The 'They got to you' certainly made me chuckle.

Kudos to all for keeping this interesting topic courteous.
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January 5th, 2019 at 5:22:33 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

You dont know who youre messing with. I suggest you tell your droned out immoral and ignorant security guards who blindly follow orders for a paycheck that theyre committing a major federal offense when they read me the trespass statute. Title 18 Section 241. Keep pissing me off and watch what happens. All of you will learn ignorance of the law is no excuse. If youre purposely bluffing, i just hope you realize even bluffing is considered a violation of my rights because as soon as you read me NRS 207.200 you have just committed a federal offense saying I cannot return to a public space after doing nothing disorderly or disruptive. A card counter cannot go to prison for simply using his brain playing blackjack and doing nothing illegal as that would be completely unconstitutional so it will be thrown out in court. On a private level, your security guards will be sued to oblivion under Title 18 Section 241.

You literally have these droned out security guards who are committing a major federal offense escorting you out the door and telling you that you cannot return or you will be arrested? I mean really? Is this russia or china? I dont think so. They dont know any better cause their IQ is about the same as a monkey and thinking they have the power to do that, but what really amazes me is how they still act like smart asses when I try to educate them theyre committing a felony. I swear on my grave, these casinos and security guards will learn that ignorance is no excuse. Youre playing with fire. Youll never meet someone like me in this city again.

Im willing to get illegally arrested and illegally railroaded by the judge because after i get out of prison i will go back to the same casinos again and for a repeat offender, the sentence will now go over 6 months and probably to a year. This is where theyre screwed. Ill now be able to get a jury trial since it wont be considered a 'petty offense' and wont be able to get railroaded by a corrupt judge. This is where Vegas will change forever regarding blackjack. Say hello to the new Atlantic City everyone. Coming soon to a store near you.



Zen,

I sense more than a bit of mania on your end.

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