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boymimbo
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January 16th, 2019 at 9:57:45 PM permalink
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After listening to the podcast today, a couple things pop out to me. First off, according to the Nevada trespass statute as Bob alluded to, 207.200,

I didn't put words in your mouth. The thread I linked to pretty much has the same arguments that you enumerate here. And you refuted Bob's analysis in that post.




Nice find.

ZK, lying will only make you look like you are dishonest.

Are you dishonest?

If not, why did you lie?

Or perhaps you were (conveniently) "mistaken?"

Fact: this emperor, I mean "king" has no clothes.



I'll assume that he forgot about that thread. I wasn't active on the forum at the time but when I came upon that thread via Google I realized that this argument has been made before.

Quite frankly a change in the makeup of the judges at the supreme court level or a change to statutes by state legislature might overturn the legality of the statute. Given how much money gambling creates for the state and the lobbying going on, I sincerely doubt it will happen. Bob N makes a few good points in his podcast, and Slade actually did not do anything wrong. He wanted to attend a medical conference at the Paris. His wife was 86d in Tunica. Bob made the point that hundreds of people get barred without association. And Bob seems pretty bent that he hasn't been able to get the law changed on that one. Slade sued the casino - it wasn't Slade v the state. All of which makes things worse for gamblers. The state basically upheld the right of casinos to exclude for any reason and then charge with trespassing after being warned, all without any wrongdoing by Slade. At least that is my take.
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ZenKinG
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January 16th, 2019 at 10:13:17 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Quote: boymimbo

After listening to the podcast today, a couple things pop out to me. First off, according to the Nevada trespass statute as Bob alluded to, 207.200,

I didn't put words in your mouth. The thread I linked to pretty much has the same arguments that you enumerate here. And you refuted Bob's analysis in that post.




Nice find.

ZK, lying will only make you look like you are dishonest.

Are you dishonest?

If not, why did you lie?

Or perhaps you were (conveniently) "mistaken?"

Fact: this emperor, I mean "king" has no clothes.



Lying? Boyimbo referencing a thread from 10 months ago and im supposed to know which podcast he was talking about? I vaguely remember posting that I listened to a bob podcast and had a feeling he was referencing that GWAE episode, but didnt want to assume what he was referencing to, so I asked for clarity from him. So please go ahead and show where I explicitly lied?
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
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January 17th, 2019 at 12:34:24 AM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

Quote: MrV

Quote: boymimbo

After listening to the podcast today, a couple things pop out to me. First off, according to the Nevada trespass statute as Bob alluded to, 207.200,

I didn't put words in your mouth. The thread I linked to pretty much has the same arguments that you enumerate here. And you refuted Bob's analysis in that post.




Nice find.

ZK, lying will only make you look like you are dishonest.

Are you dishonest?

If not, why did you lie?

Or perhaps you were (conveniently) "mistaken?"

Fact: this emperor, I mean "king" has no clothes.



Lying? Boyimbo referencing a thread from 10 months ago and im supposed to know which podcast he was talking about? I vaguely remember posting that I listened to a bob podcast and had a feeling he was referencing that GWAE episode, but didnt want to assume what he was referencing to, so I asked for clarity from him. So please go ahead and show where I explicitly lied?



How about all the times you have stated the casinos are going to “pay” and you wil “own” them.

Interesting reading but let’s face it, you have no intention of actually doing what you state. It’s all theory and boasting.
boymimbo
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January 17th, 2019 at 6:59:37 AM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

Lying? Boyimbo referencing a thread from 10 months ago and im supposed to know which podcast he was talking about? I vaguely remember posting that I listened to a bob podcast and had a feeling he was referencing that GWAE episode, but didnt want to assume what he was referencing to, so I asked for clarity from him. So please go ahead and show where I explicitly lied?



When did you ask for clarity?

So I didn't put words in your mouth then, and you did listen to that podcast. You posted at least a dozen times in that thread on the podcast. One of the questions in the podcast was about Slade and you posted the question in the thread!!!

You then go on to say you listened to the podcast and questioned Bob's knowledge of the law. Do you think that Bob N would not be knowledgeable on the cases you mentioned? Do you think he doesn't have researchers looking at lower court decisions on a case?

So yeah I have a hard time believing that you didn't know that was the podcast I was referring to, and I am guessing you doubted I would dig it out. You denied that you listened to "any podcast" and accused me of putting words in your mouth. You later recanted... Slightly... Vague recollection... Yeah.

But this is the internet, and people will do whatever it takes to win a debate, including ignoring facts, failing to recollect, and flat out lying to make a point.

Nonetheless Bob N. communicated his thoughts on the Slade case and you disagree with his assessment and believe that the case wasn't pertaining to what are trying to prove.

Right now you seem to believe that the casino staff ejecting you and not charging you with trespassing means that they legally can't.
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ZenKinG
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January 17th, 2019 at 2:51:00 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

When did you ask for clarity?

So I didn't put words in your mouth then, and you did listen to that podcast. You posted at least a dozen times in that thread on the podcast. One of the questions in the podcast was about Slade and you posted the question in the thread!!!

You then go on to say you listened to the podcast and questioned Bob's knowledge of the law. Do you think that Bob N would not be knowledgeable on the cases you mentioned? Do you think he doesn't have researchers looking at lower court decisions on a case?

So yeah I have a hard time believing that you didn't know that was the podcast I was referring to, and I am guessing you doubted I would dig it out. You denied that you listened to "any podcast" and accused me of putting words in your mouth. You later recanted... Slightly... Vague recollection... Yeah.

But this is the internet, and people will do whatever it takes to win a debate, including ignoring facts, failing to recollect, and flat out lying to make a point.

Nonetheless Bob N. communicated his thoughts on the Slade case and you disagree with his assessment and believe that the case wasn't pertaining to what are trying to prove.

Right now you seem to believe that the casino staff ejecting you and not charging you with trespassing means that they legally can't.



Are you really arguing with me whether or not i knew what podcast you were referring to? Why the hell would i care to lie or care to gain about whether i knew what podcast you were referring to. The thing was 10 months ago and i asked at the end of my post which one you were referring to. Jesus christ man. And im the one thats trying to win arguments behind a keyboard? And people accusing me of being a 'liar'? What the hell could i have possibly gained by saying whether or not i heard that podcast and posted about it if my opinions regarding casino trespassing, bobs opinions about trespassing, and the slade case have always been consistent and that i dont agree with any of them?

I guess I shouldnt have immediately attacked you by saying you're putting 'words in my mouth' since i maybe had an idea of what you were referring to. Now that we know which podcast youre referring to instead of just saying i listened to a 'podcast' that I posted about a year ago, now we can proceed further.
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
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January 17th, 2019 at 5:34:17 PM permalink
"Which podcast? I never listened to any podcast or claimed that I did."

Your words.
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January 17th, 2019 at 5:43:58 PM permalink
I thought casinos have the right to trespass people. It keeps the rule good for others.
billryan
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January 17th, 2019 at 5:57:38 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

"Which podcast? I never listened to any podcast or claimed that I did."

Your words.



Oh sure. Now you want to use his own words against him? I was watching The Profit last night, and the owner of the business remarked how at age 28, he was found to be on the Asperger's Spectrum. It gave me pause to wonder how many people in our lives that seem o be slightly off may register on that scale, myself included. I've always marched to a different drummer.
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January 17th, 2019 at 9:07:17 PM permalink
I stay mostly out of ZK threads, but this just made me lol.

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Jesus christ man. And im the one thats trying to win arguments behind a keyboard?



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January 17th, 2019 at 9:15:24 PM permalink
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I stay mostly out of ZK threads, but this just made me lol.



Why, yes. Yes, you are.



He's definitely not winning them in the casino or court.



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