KingoftheEye
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July 31st, 2018 at 9:46:12 AM permalink
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My thoughts ....

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Hi, Dr. J. Former client here. (who wishes to remain anonymous on this board). Glad to see retirement has treated you well.
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July 31st, 2018 at 10:26:12 AM permalink
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I've seen the inside of a shuffle machine multiple times. It is not possible to rig any ASM for BJ that I've seen, simply because the machine doesn't have the capability to read the value of the cards as they are input into it...

This is incorrect. Perhaps you viewed older versions of machines, but even casinos near me for at least the past couple YEARS have shuffle machines that can identify specific cards. I.E. Red light and a message that says "9 of diamonds missing."
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July 31st, 2018 at 10:30:59 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

This is incorrect. Perhaps you viewed older versions of machines, but even casinos near me for at least the past couple YEARS have shuffle machines that can identify specific cards. I.E. Red light and a message that says "9 of diamonds missing."


Potentially not inconsistent if the shufflers can read the cards on the way out but not when they are “input”.
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July 31st, 2018 at 11:44:27 AM permalink
I just read the original post. This does bring more evidence to the table than most accusations of cheating, but that isn't saying much. There is enough here for me to play it myself. I plan to play moderately aggressively, which I fully expect to draw heat at the EC. I'll report back on what happens. If any locals want to join me at the table, PM me.
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July 31st, 2018 at 12:02:13 PM permalink
Don't lose your shirt, in pursuit of the evidence,
Take care out there. Spare a thought for the newly poor who were happy in their world just a few days ago, but whose whole way of life just collapsed..
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July 31st, 2018 at 1:33:34 PM permalink
in another forum the OP stated that El Cortez has removed the 2 machines in question and replaced them with older machines

he believes they were removed because of the various insinuating postings on different forums - he believes that their removal is evidence that he was correct in his original claim

he has also stated in another forum that several of his AP friends were upset with him because they were exploiting the gaffed shuffler and now that opportunity for them is gone. don't ask me how they were exploiting it. I could only make an educated guess.

so, it looks like it is now more difficult to investigate the situation
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July 31st, 2018 at 1:39:00 PM permalink
Actually the 2 machines in question are part of Bernie Madoff's son-in-laws, sister's, nephew's gardner's,uncle's evil empire. Bernie is doing this all while in prison.
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July 31st, 2018 at 3:40:02 PM permalink
The machines in question have been taken to a grassy knoll, been left on for exactly eighteen minutes, whereupon Elvis came by and picked them up. Current whereabouts unknown.
KingoftheEye
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July 31st, 2018 at 6:19:38 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

This is incorrect. Perhaps you viewed older versions of machines, but even casinos near me for at least the past couple YEARS have shuffle machines that can identify specific cards. I.E. Red light and a message that says "9 of diamonds missing."



Sorry, I probably should have said CSM. Some ASMs do read card values, like an MD3, but the ones I have seen are not accurate enough on card placement to stack a deck. One to two cards will fall regularly when the arms pick up the stack.
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July 31st, 2018 at 7:08:33 PM permalink
The OP says APs are exploiting it with the side bet. This doesn't make a lot of sense. Somehow El Cortez is smart enough to make an ASM clump cards to stop card counters but they forget about how this might impact their side bet? Yeah, right.

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