Once again they refuse to show me the cards. I even caught them red handed 20 min before i played. On the double deck table the dealer didnt place all of the cards in the shuffling machine and the light never even turned red. I coukdnt believe what my eyes were seeing. I call the pit boss and ask why it didnt turn red and i thought these machines turn red if a card is missing. Of course she gives me some bd excuse. 20 min later on a diff table i get my ass handed to me. I find a pit manager or whoever the fuk he was and he told me the machine turns red if theres a crad missing. I told him hes lying and saw it wih my own eyes. They give me the runaround, refuse to show me the cards, refuse to do a test to prove i was right, refuse to do anything.
Absolutely gutted. I dont give a fuk if i win or lose, but once again no fuking transparency whatsoever. Why even bother playing this game? I mean seriously? Next time i get backed off im flipping the whole table over and throwing every chair in the casino.
Did my you at least leave with your scalp?
ZCore13
And YOU STILL PLAYED.
2.
There is no 2.
How dare you come in here and throw an f-bomb rant after you ignored what you say you saw!!?
Get a grip. I'm disgusted you're such an easy mark for them.
And clean up your room while you're at it, young man.
Quote: beachbumbabs1. You caught them cheating 20 minutes BEFORE
And YOU STILL PLAYED.
2.
There is no 2.
How dare you come in here and throw an f-bomb rant after you ignored what you say you saw!!?
Get a grip. I'm disgusted you're such an easy mark for them.
And clean up your room while you're at it, young man.
I gave them the benefit of the doubt when tbe machine tray came up after it had the missing cards but i was always of the belief its supposed to turn red if theres a missing card. Im not even sure if it was the dealer that pressed for it to come back up or it came back up by itself.
I also want to give the casino the benefit of the doubt because if they are cheating that means i never want to play ever again anywhere because if one casino is cheating how many others are doing it and how many bets have i placed in the past in a short shoe? Im really close to retiring. These casinos are all dirty greedy pure scum and deserve the absolute worst in life. Theres absolutely no transparency between customer and casino. Its all about them. One day theyre gonna regret all of this. Before i retire im throwing a chair right at the managers face when they give their fake ass smile and tell me their same old rehashed garbage: 'Im sorry sir, we cant show you the cards, have a nice day'. F!#/ing drones
Well see who will be having a nice day.
Quote: MaxPenSeriously?
Did my you at least leave with your scalp?
What do you mean? You think im scared of these little sovereign dirty corrupt indians. I wish they would backroom me, i would take on at least 5 security guards by myself. If they dont have a weapon on them i honestly feel bad for every single of them. They would have to break every bone in my body to get rid of me and then i would be back again for more after i healed up
Quote: beachbumbabs1. You caught them cheating 20 minutes BEFORE
And YOU STILL PLAYED.
2.
There is no 2.
LMAO. That has to be a contender for post of the year.
wow, I think I know who will have the worst day!Quote: ZenKinGWell see who will be having a nice day.
Quote: OnceDearQuote: beachbumbabs1. You caught them cheating 20 minutes BEFORE
And YOU STILL PLAYED.
2.
There is no 2.
LMAO. That has to be a contender for post of the year.
This snippet too !
Quote: beachbumbabsAnd clean up your room while you're at it, young man.
Have you tried Anger management?Quote: ZenKinGWhat do you mean? You think im scared of these little sovereign dirty corrupt indians. I wish they would backroom me, i would take on at least 5 security guards by myself. If they dont have a weapon on them i honestly feel bad for every single of them. They would have to break every bone in my body to get rid of me and then i would be back again for more after i healed up
Seriously ZK. Indian gaff might well be cheating, so what? Don't play what you don't trust.
You mean transparency like NOT including the name of the Indian Casino ?Quote: ZenKinGbut once again no ..... transparency whatsoever.
Quote: JohnnyQYou mean transparency like NOT including the name of the Indian Casino ?
you gotta be careful with that!
Bad tradesmen always blame their tools.
Check the ego at the door it will save you a lot of bankroll, don’t take friends and/ or partner as you are going to work and you don’t need another reason to blame for your failure.
See friends and partner after work and enjoy the fruit of your labor.
Really it is no big deal to stop what you are doing if it is not working out for you. You tried and you can not continue , do not look for excuses now or you will continue to blame ALL things for the rest of your life. Are you an American or will you live a life of regrets as an Americant?
Not everyone is able to do what you are doing, yes it is hard work ( hardest easy money you will ever make) yes you will be ridiculed, yes you will feel as the universe is against you, yes you will feel overwhelmed and under appreciated. Man the f* up or get out of the kitchen. I put ear plugs in when I go to the casino so I do not have to listen to all the complaining from people. I point to my phone as if I am on a call as i can not be bothered as I’ve heard every excuse ever.
I tell you now, have a break put the ego and bullshit aside and have a wee think. I have read your posts most are good, I can see what you are going for. Maybe you need to tone it down a bit as you are starting to believe your own hype. Set realistic goals if you continue with card counting, lay off booze and drugs get rid of un needed distractions ie piss the problem you are not dealing with off. Or quit. Either way you win.
No disrespect intended but we all have been there done that and hey I do not work for anyone yes it can be a grind at times but you can make a living from the casino, you can choose your own playing field and your country offers you a HUGE HUGE selection of properties to work at.
Whatever decision you make no one here will bat an eye lid, but I’m sure most understand what you are going through ,even if you have not articulated it succinctly , if they agree or not is not a huge concern of yours.
Breathe inhale exhale. Breathe again. If you live until you are 80yrs old that is a little under 29500 days not a lot at all but far to long to waste with regrets and complaining.
Kind regards.
Quote: HunterhillThe casino must be using Chinese shufflers.
I dont know if this one is Chinese, but she can shuffle for me any day! 😁
Quote: ZenKinGQuote: beachbumbabsAnd clean up your room while you're at it, young man.
I gave them the benefit of the doubt
LOL. I must say it is a great pleasure to wake up to a cup of coffee, a pumpkin spice donut and such entertaining wit on the forum.
Please remember the line from The Ronan: If there is any doubt then there is no doubt.
If all your training and experience makes you have any doubt then do not try to talk yourself out of it. You saw what you saw and if YOUR money means anything to you then you quit that casino right then and there and you quit it forever.
If it means you spring for a few more gallons of gasoline, do so. If it means you save up and hop on some puddle jumper to get to a real casino, then that is what you do, but you do not play in a crooked game.
At some of these smaller casinos, whether Indian or not, you may not like the food, the entertainment, the parking, the drinks, the air conditioning, whatever. That is up to you and your personal tolerances, but when it comes to things like shuffling, dealing, using 'tops' at craps, etc. there is only one response and that is LEAVE IMMEDIATELY.
Quote: ZenKinGQuote: beachbumbabsAnd clean up your room while you're at it, young man.
I gave them the benefit of the doubt
LOL. I must say it is a great pleasure to wake up to a cup of coffee, a pumpkin spice donut and such entertaining wit on the forum.
Please remember the line from The Ronan: If there is any doubt then there is no doubt.
If all your training and experience makes you have any doubt then do not try to talk yourself out of it. You saw what you saw and if YOUR money means anything to you then you quit that casino right then and there and you quit it forever.
If it means you spring for a few more gallons of gasoline, do so. If it means you save up and hop on some puddle jumper to get to a real casino, then that is what you do, but you do not play in a crooked game.
At some of these smaller casinos, whether Indian or not, you may not like the food, the entertainment, the parking, the drinks, the air conditioning, whatever. That is up to you and your personal tolerances, but when it comes to things like shuffling, dealing, using 'tops' at craps, etc. there is only one response and that is LEAVE IMMEDIATELY.
Quote: odiousgambitQuote: JohnnyQYou mean transparency like NOT including the name of the Indian Casino ?
you gotta be careful with that!
Its the Heckawe indian tribe casino?
You know how they got their name right?
ZK has complained of casinos cheating/lack of transparency not fanning cards face up in three jurisdictions when losing, implying short decks.
The only logical conclusion one can come to from the data so far is that casinos in most jurisdictions cheat via short decks. Empirical evidence of cheating appears to be quite strong when zk loses over 2k.
Quote: beachbumbabs1. You caught them cheating 20 minutes BEFORE
And YOU STILL PLAYED.
"Yeah, but it's the only game in town!"
Canada Bill Jones, on being informed he was being cheated at Faro.
Quote: ZenKinGWhat do you mean? You think im scared of these little sovereign dirty corrupt indians. I wish they would backroom me, i would take on at least 5 security guards by myself. If they dont have a weapon on them i honestly feel bad for every single of them. They would have to break every bone in my body to get rid of me and then i would be back again for more after i healed up
Of course you would, you're an internet tough guy.
*yawn*
Quote: billryanAm I alone in thinking these rants are substance induced?
Pixie dust.
Ah, the internet.
Quote: MrVPixie dust.
Some people believe in pixies, others in angels.
Quote: darkozIts the Heckawe indian tribe casino?
You know how they got their name right?
yep, and I never get tired of that joke
Quote: billryanAm I alone in thinking these rants are substance induced?
It reminded me of Mickey Crimm,when he would get drunk and then post how he could kick anyone's ass and how tough he was.
Then the next day he would apologize and realize how foolish he was acting.
Quote: IbeatyouracesI dont know if this one is Chinese, but she can shuffle for me any day! 😁
Chinese shuffler??
I just met her!!
Quote: boymimboThat rant went good with my morning coffee. Typical ZK, blames the casino for cheating when he loses, credits himself when he wins, can take down everyone in a bar fight.
Ah, the internet.
I couldn't have said it better myself. Like I've been saying for months ZK is a loose cannon that has no business calling himself an AP. His mental game is as bad as I've ever seen and it seems to be getting worse.
Quote: HunterhillIt reminded me of Mickey Crimm,when he would get drunk and then post how he could kick anyone's ass and how tough he was.
Then the next day he would apologize and realize how foolish he was acting.
Agree with your first premise. We'll see about the second.
If you can't change casinos, change what town you are in.Quote: TigerWuQuote: beachbumbabs1. You caught them cheating 20 minutes BEFORE
And YOU STILL PLAYED.
"Yeah, but it's the only game in town!"
Canada Bill Jones, on being informed he was being cheated at Faro.
Quote: HunterhillIt reminded me of Mickey Crimm,when he would get drunk and then post how he could kick anyone's ass and how tough he was.
Then the next day he would apologize and realize how foolish he was acting.
MC said he quit drinking, btw. 7 mths dry
I wish he would come back if he's not permanently banned ,I enjoyed his posts.Quote: rxwineMC said he quit drinking, btw. 7 mths dry
If you feel that you were cheated by the casino then you need to list the name of the casino and it's management repeatedly when you post in such threads.
Drag the cheats out and into the open. Also use Twitter and Facebook to expose the cheating dogs.
Customer service reviews...whether it's for hotels, restaurants, or casinos are needed if you want better customer service.
Quote: HunterhillI wish he would come back if he's not permanently banned ,I enjoyed his posts.
He posts regularly on another forum, the one alan once owned but then got rid of.
Quote: HunterhillI wish he would come back if he's not permanently banned ,I enjoyed his posts.
Unfortunately, MC threatened Mike's person during one of his drunken rants. (Not sure what thread it's in, but it's on here somewhere, so that shouldn't be news.) Most people on here are anonymous, but Mike is not, and has a family. As a result, MC is permanently banned. We reviewed the situation last month, to see if he could be invited back in light of 6 months' sobriety, but the answer is no.
Quote: ZenKinGQuote: beachbumbabs1. You caught them cheating 20 minutes BEFORE
And YOU STILL PLAYED.
2.
There is no 2.
How dare you come in here and throw an f-bomb rant after you ignored what you say you saw!!?
Get a grip. I'm disgusted you're such an easy mark for them.
And clean up your room while you're at it, young man.
I gave them the benefit of the doubt when tbe machine tray came up after it had the missing cards but i was always of the belief its supposed to turn red if theres a missing card. Im not even sure if it was the dealer that pressed for it to come back up or it came back up by itself.
I also want to give the casino the benefit of the doubt because if they are cheating that means i never want to play ever again anywhere because if one casino is cheating how many others are doing it and how many bets have i placed in the past in a short shoe? Im really close to retiring. These casinos are all dirty greedy pure scum and deserve the absolute worst in life. Theres absolutely no transparency between customer and casino. Its all about them. One day theyre gonna regret all of this. Before i retire im throwing a chair right at the managers face when they give their fake ass smile and tell me their same old rehashed garbage: 'Im sorry sir, we cant show you the cards, have a nice day'. F!#/ing drones
Well see who will be having a nice day.
ZK,
Last warning. Mask your swears. If you must make them at all. See above. Copy and paste when necessary. Thank you.
Quote: ZenKinGWhat a f**king coincidence. Its just absolutrly unreal. Of course i go to an indian reservation casino in California and drop 2k in one shoe and -1600 for the trip. Of course I do. These corrupt rigged sovereign piece of $hit indians take out as many 10s and aces as they can and theres absolutely no recourse for any of us. How the hell can i ever build a bankroll big enough with qll of this cheating that is going on? Its absolutely unbelievable.
Once again they refuse to show me the cards. I even caught them red handed 20 min before i played. On the double deck table the dealer didnt place all of the cards in the shuffling machine and the light never even turned red. I coukdnt believe what my eyes were seeing. I call the pit boss and ask why it didnt turn red and i thought these machines turn red if a card is missing. Of course she gives me some bd excuse. 20 min later on a diff table i get my ass handed to me. I find a pit manager or whoever the fuk he was and he told me the machine turns red if theres a crad missing. I told him hes lying and saw it wih my own eyes. They give me the runaround, refuse to show me the cards, refuse to do a test to prove i was right, refuse to do anything.
Absolutely gutted. I dont give a fuk if i win or lose, but once again no fuking transparency whatsoever. Why even bother playing this game? I mean seriously? Next time i get backed off im flipping the whole table over and throwing every chair in the casino.
Lmao, you see them cheat but then you play anyways. That is priceless.
I won a mental bet with myself. When I saw the ttile I knew it would be you before I saw who the op was.
Quote: GWAEI won a mental bet with myself.
Make to many mental bets and you'll lose your mind.
Quote: GWAELmao, you see them cheat but then you play anyways. That is priceless.
I won a mental bet with myself. When I saw the ttile I knew it would be you before I saw who the op was.
You won a mental bet ? Oh my god, you say you are a constant winner, What !! was that an infallible count. He won a mental bet .
Are you going to sell that system? Let them know the maths re the strike rate , Man you going to be rich. You are going to get so many asking for the formula , you need a good web page. You will need a winning bio, Wow lucky stiff.
Lol 😂
Just joking no offence intended.
Kind regards
P. s what odds did you get as Zenking may want to go to that casino. Ha ha 🤣🤣