Consequences for getting caught card counting on a player's card?
August 19th, 2017 at 12:05:07 PM
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I was wondering what are the consequences of getting caught card counting on a player's card vs unrated?
Specifically, how does it affect you outside the property you were caught at? Say if you were caught at a Caesars property on the west coast will you be unable to play with your card at a Caesars property on the east coast?
Specifically, how does it affect you outside the property you were caught at? Say if you were caught at a Caesars property on the west coast will you be unable to play with your card at a Caesars property on the east coast?
August 19th, 2017 at 7:41:58 PM
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If you're going to count cards you should never give them any sort of players card to begin with. You want $$$, not comps.
The Martingdale system always works perfectly until that one time that it doesn't.
August 19th, 2017 at 8:59:08 PM
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Certainly not my most knowledgeable subject, but there are those that would suggest it is good cover. Furthermore, it may also add to one's advantage if it is not a particularly sweaty house, or a game that most people would not normally target. It could also be helpful if one's spread is such that they are not obviously counting.
I'll leave any more specific comments to our guys here that actually do this, but I do know that some counters play with a card in some places.
I'll leave any more specific comments to our guys here that actually do this, but I do know that some counters play with a card in some places.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
August 19th, 2017 at 10:19:59 PM
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Neutrino, what do you mean by "being caught"? Do you mean being officially evicted from the casino and given written warning you are not wanted and to not ever return?
I am a robot.
August 19th, 2017 at 11:17:53 PM
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Quote: onenickelmiracleNeutrino, what do you mean by "being caught"? Do you mean being officially evicted from the casino and given written warning you are not wanted and to not ever return?
"Sir you're not allowed to play blackjack anymore but you're welcomed to play any other game in the casino."
August 20th, 2017 at 12:20:05 AM
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At that point, playing on your card should result in instant backoffs in the future.
Granted, sometimes the left hand doesn't talk to the right hand, or however the saying goes. I know someone who was 86'd from a CET property, playing rated, essentially chased halfway down the strip from security telling him he was trespassed, couldn't come back, etc. He took a break from CET for a few months, then a few months later started playing again, although unrated, and he didn't have any problems. Then the "right hand met the left hand" and his TR card got shut down....he called and asked what was up. I don't remember their response but it sounded very much like it got shut down because of the 86'ing. He was even able to use comps (like rooms and food and diamond benefits like food and airfare) AFTER the first 86'ing and nothing happened -- he just wasn't playing rated anymore, but they definitely knew he was on property b/c of the comps.
I'm not saying you should play somewhere after you've been 86'd, but telling you of that as an example of them not putting 2 and 2 together for quite a while (at least a year IIRC).
Granted, sometimes the left hand doesn't talk to the right hand, or however the saying goes. I know someone who was 86'd from a CET property, playing rated, essentially chased halfway down the strip from security telling him he was trespassed, couldn't come back, etc. He took a break from CET for a few months, then a few months later started playing again, although unrated, and he didn't have any problems. Then the "right hand met the left hand" and his TR card got shut down....he called and asked what was up. I don't remember their response but it sounded very much like it got shut down because of the 86'ing. He was even able to use comps (like rooms and food and diamond benefits like food and airfare) AFTER the first 86'ing and nothing happened -- he just wasn't playing rated anymore, but they definitely knew he was on property b/c of the comps.
I'm not saying you should play somewhere after you've been 86'd, but telling you of that as an example of them not putting 2 and 2 together for quite a while (at least a year IIRC).
