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ZenKinG
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August 16th, 2017 at 7:01:20 PM permalink
Well first off, let me go ahead and take the high road. Yes I went a bit overboard once again due to an emotional rant and when i said useless scum, it obviously wasnt towards the people that have helped me whether publicly or privately on here or the people i've met in real life from this forum and you know who you are. It also wasn't called for to say that about anyone on this forum, even if some have pushed me a bit over the edge at times. Whether this apology now makes me look worse or whatever, i dont care, just want to settle the air. I also will be doing my best to not bring my rants to this forum anymore. All it does is print an image of me that's not really me. It's basically just emotional anger coming out and it's like I become a completely different person for 10 minutes.

I've also done a bit of thinking the last 3 days actually and I'm actually going to change my whole approach. Either I learn how to disconnect my emotions from the game or just quit altogether. Also the plan is still to continue living in vegas, but im thinking of traveling all around the country to now play exclusively double deck games and get diamond status at the tolerant caesars properties outside of vegas. Then take that diamond status and go to the caesars food lounges in vegas and just eat and drink for free. Even if I get made as a counter outside of Vegas, it is my understanding Caesars wont remove your diamond status and they also dont communicate well among caesars properties so my picture wouldn't be sent to vegas. I'm going to have to find a way to disguise my betting playing these double deck games, maybe use some inverse betting 3 hands off the top minimum bet and 1 hand max bet, but the EV playing these games is about double the shoe games. Definitely thinking of different strategies now to offset expenses as well as increase my EV and lower variance.
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August 17th, 2017 at 1:53:25 PM permalink
D-Day in Vegas 2: The Awakening
Romes
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August 17th, 2017 at 2:03:08 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

Well first off, let me go ahead and take the high road. Yes I went a bit overboard once again due to an emotional rant and when i said useless scum, it obviously wasnt towards the people that have helped me whether publicly or privately on here or the people i've met in real life from this forum and you know who you are. It also wasn't called for to say that about anyone on this forum, even if some have pushed me a bit over the edge at times. Whether this apology now makes me look worse or whatever, i dont care, just want to settle the air. I also will be doing my best to not bring my rants to this forum anymore. All it does is print an image of me that's not really me. It's basically just emotional anger coming out and it's like I become a completely different person for 10 minutes...

So as mentioned previously in this thread it sounds like you need another emotional outlet for the pent up anger from losses/etc? As I suggested before, I'd HIGHLY recommend you start off with like a mauy thai kickboxing or boxing class. If you really want a workout do jiu-jitsu... They will be the best workouts of your life, and you'll learn a very valuable skill. Hell, even buying a $100 heavy bag and just T-ing off on it in your Apt could do the trick =).

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I've also done a bit of thinking the last 3 days actually and I'm actually going to change my whole approach. Either I learn how to disconnect my emotions from the game or just quit altogether. Also the plan is still to continue living in vegas, but im thinking of traveling all around the country to now play exclusively double deck games and get diamond status at the tolerant caesars properties outside of vegas. Then take that diamond status and go to the caesars food lounges in vegas and just eat and drink for free. Even if I get made as a counter outside of Vegas, it is my understanding Caesars wont remove your diamond status and they also dont communicate well among caesars properties so my picture wouldn't be sent to vegas. I'm going to have to find a way to disguise my betting playing these double deck games, maybe use some inverse betting 3 hands off the top minimum bet and 1 hand max bet, but the EV playing these games is about double the shoe games. Definitely thinking of different strategies now to offset expenses as well as increase my EV and lower variance.

That's a pretty bold plan... Double decks + Caesars is not the way to go if your goal is to get diamond. Look up the Diamond in a Day thread. Caesars practically GIVES diamond away at least once per year when they do their bonuses (which all stack on top of one another). You should really just eat the $350 in negative EV to get diamond (which if you read my posts in that thread I don't think the EV is negative at all to just play VP and get diamond). Between the mailers, food, comps, etc, etc, I truly believe it's a +EV play to get Diamond in a day (which if timed right is good for 2 years essentially). Heck, being in vegas you could even sell the "free" show tickets each month for cheap (hey, pays for gas).

If your goal is to go after Diamond status to save some money on food and possible lodging around the country/world, I'd very very much recommend you do not play blackjack to get it. Not only will it take forever, but you'll more than likely be made/burned at their DD games. I've been saying this to the people I teach as well... the shorter number deck games is NOT where the money is at in counting! Give me a 95% PEN 8D H17 game with low/no heat and I'll play that crap till you're blue in the face =).

Good luck.
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August 17th, 2017 at 2:08:45 PM permalink
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D-Day in Vegas 2: The Awakening

Wait, we're into Season 2 already? :)

Seriously, though, ZK, best of luck with your new approach. And ditto what Romes said about Diamond in A Day.
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August 17th, 2017 at 3:25:17 PM permalink
Agree with the posters about diamond. You won't get there playing BJ as their comps and points granting at table games are extremely stingy. You are better off as everyone else said doing Diamond in a Day.

If you are going to be AP, you have to take your emotions entirely out of the game and concentrate on foiling game protection and your game. Travelling around the country will cost you money and will take away from your profitable playing time. See the country because you want to enjoy it.
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ZenKinG
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August 17th, 2017 at 4:04:07 PM permalink
Well the ideas of playing DD and getting diamond was an idea i received from a player who I have talked off this forum. He said to go to a couple tolerant caesars properties around the country to get diamond and that i wouldnt get backed off. Even if i get made, i would still have the diamond status as caesars doesnt retract the status once you have it. He said you can probably attain diamond within 3 days playing DD at these properties. I always thought blackjack comps weren't that great and have been tightened over the years, but he told me otherwise and that it could be done.
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August 17th, 2017 at 9:11:25 PM permalink
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August 17th, 2017 at 9:22:08 PM permalink
Bob Dancer is currently offering his free video poker classes at the South Point . Can't recommend them enough. Before I took his classes, I was clueless. Now I'm just generally a bit confused.

You may find the schedule at http://bobdancer.com/seminars
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August 17th, 2017 at 9:55:47 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Bob Dancer is currently offering his free video poker classes at the South Point . Can't recommend them enough. Before I took his classes, I was clueless. Now I'm just generally a bit confused.



Now after this comment I'm the one with nothing to say. I read this post like you were the straight man in an Abbot and Costello routine.

Your next line should of been something about recommending to buy his merchandise. Followed by how great it is to play at the South Point but don't play too smart or Gaughn will have his birdies chirping and you'll be cut cut cut out the door.

Edit: By the way that Casino is one ugly place to play Bingo. Cash Only and no good package deals. The hotball got up over 80k awhile back and I messed with the mob scene throwing away about 500 at it over a ten day span or so.
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billryan
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August 17th, 2017 at 11:33:22 PM permalink
It's got a huge bingo hall. Never been in it, but pass it on the way to the movies.
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