Mow21
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February 16th, 2016 at 2:05:05 PM permalink
Yesterday while playing blackjack I noticed a new side bet, Deuces Wild. I never pay any attention to side bets, unless it's Lucky Ladies, because I know of the high HE. I saw the top pay was 20/1 on two 2s and there was a whole list of payouts which all contained a 2 except the last one that said Ace Jack BJ pays 1-1.

I didn't think about this side bet much until I left the casino. It seems like a very countable side bet. I looked online everywhere for more info on this bet but couldn't dig anything up. If anyone has experience with this side bet or could post a link of the origin of this side bet it would be much appreciated. Thanks!

nodummy57
Joined: Feb 4, 2016
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February 16th, 2016 at 3:20:30 PM permalink
Rach card a little misleading, to say the least.

Player has 2/10 in initial two cards, then receives 10 to 1 on the Deuces Wild bet.
Player has 2/7 in initial two cards, then receives 7 to 1 on the Deuces Wild bet.
Player has 2/4 in initial two cards, then receives 4 to 1 on Deuces Wild bet.

Didnt see AJ 1-1 on website

http://www.playags.com/portfolio/deuces-wild/
never smarten up a chump
teliot
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February 16th, 2016 at 3:38:31 PM permalink
Full pay table and game demo here: http://www.playags.com/deuceswildbj_demo/index.html

2/A pays 11-to-1
2/10 pays 10-to-1
2/9 pays 9-to-1
2/8 pays 8-to-1
2/7 pays 7-to-1
2/6 pays 6-to-1
2/5 pays 5-to-1
2/4 pays 4-to-1
2/3 pays 3-to-1
2/2 pays 2-to-1
2/J,Q,K pays 1-to-1

House edge 6 decks = 5.689%
House edge 2 decks = 5.228%

Obviously crushable by card counting. The following system has betting correlation 0.992:

A, 10 = 0
3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, J, Q, K =+1
2 = -10.
Last edited by: teliot on Feb 16, 2016
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nodummy57
Joined: Feb 4, 2016
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February 16th, 2016 at 3:39:42 PM permalink
Finally able to real small payout chart on felt.
2 with A 11
10 10
9 9
8 8
7 7
6 6
5 5
4 4
3 3
2 2
j-k 1

No math whiz, just trying Win \$65 plus 13 as payoffs are to 1, not for one. Hit all 13 combos .
Just getting close, 1 in 13 for a duece, 13 in 13 for all payoff combos. 9 I said getting close )
169/2 =84,5 bet for \$78 return = 8.3% HE

Expect the correct answer is just a few minutes, I am fairly certain.
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Hittem
Joined: Nov 13, 2015
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February 16th, 2016 at 4:23:53 PM permalink
Such a dumb BJ sidebet.
ChesterDog
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February 16th, 2016 at 5:02:14 PM permalink
Quote: Mow21

...a very countable side bet...

I hope it's dealt from a shoe and not from a continuous shuffle machine.
Here's a nice simple count: twos = -3; and faces (but not 10-spots, of course) +1. The bet should be +EV above a true count of +1.

Another count is: twos = -6; faces, threes, fours, and fives = +1. The bet should be +EV above a true count of +2.
teliot
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February 16th, 2016 at 5:06:30 PM permalink
Quote: ChesterDog

Here's a nice simple count: twos = -3; and faces (but not 10-spots, of course) +1. The bet should be +EV above a true count of +1.

Betting correlation = 0.943.

Quote:

Another count is: twos = -6; faces, threes, fours, and fives = +1. The bet should be +EV above a true count of +2.

Betting correlation = 0.989. Much better!
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Mow21
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February 16th, 2016 at 5:41:52 PM permalink
Thanks for the comments guys! Next time I go I'll be sure to put the whole table into my phone so I can share for sure!

The game was out of a 6D shoe. H17, no surrender, .75-1.25 decks cut off (which I think is pretty decent)
Mow21
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February 18th, 2016 at 1:13:56 PM permalink
I've got the table! And it's better than I had thought!

Deuces Wild - BJ side bet
2-2 ............. 20-1
2-10............ 10-1
2-9.............. 9-1
2-8.............. 8-1
2-7.............. 7-1
2-6.............. 6-1
2-5.............. 5-1
2-4.............. 4-1
2-3.............. 3-1
2-A,K,Q,J... 1-1

I was mistaken last time I saw the table. It said A-J 1-1 (I thought that meant AJ BJ) which means A,K,Q,J 1-1.

This seems extremely exploitable as some have mentioned in the comments! Would counting this be better than Hi-Lo?
Romes
Joined: Jul 22, 2014