Mow21
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February 16th, 2016 at 2:05:05 PM permalink
Yesterday while playing blackjack I noticed a new side bet, Deuces Wild. I never pay any attention to side bets, unless it's Lucky Ladies, because I know of the high HE. I saw the top pay was 20/1 on two 2s and there was a whole list of payouts which all contained a 2 except the last one that said Ace Jack BJ pays 1-1.

I didn't think about this side bet much until I left the casino. It seems like a very countable side bet. I looked online everywhere for more info on this bet but couldn't dig anything up. If anyone has experience with this side bet or could post a link of the origin of this side bet it would be much appreciated. Thanks!

P.S. Sorry I don't have more info on the payout table.
nodummy57
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February 16th, 2016 at 3:20:30 PM permalink
Rach card a little misleading, to say the least.


Player has 2/10 in initial two cards, then receives 10 to 1 on the Deuces Wild bet.
Player has 2/7 in initial two cards, then receives 7 to 1 on the Deuces Wild bet.
Player has 2/4 in initial two cards, then receives 4 to 1 on Deuces Wild bet.


http://www.playags.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/AGS_DeucesWild_RackCard.pdf

Didnt see AJ 1-1 on website

http://www.playags.com/portfolio/deuces-wild/
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teliot
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February 16th, 2016 at 3:38:31 PM permalink
Full pay table and game demo here: http://www.playags.com/deuceswildbj_demo/index.html

2/A pays 11-to-1
2/10 pays 10-to-1
2/9 pays 9-to-1
2/8 pays 8-to-1
2/7 pays 7-to-1
2/6 pays 6-to-1
2/5 pays 5-to-1
2/4 pays 4-to-1
2/3 pays 3-to-1
2/2 pays 2-to-1
2/J,Q,K pays 1-to-1

House edge 6 decks = 5.689%
House edge 2 decks = 5.228%

Obviously crushable by card counting. The following system has betting correlation 0.992:

A, 10 = 0
3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, J, Q, K =+1
2 = -10.
Last edited by: teliot on Feb 16, 2016
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nodummy57
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February 16th, 2016 at 3:39:42 PM permalink
Finally able to real small payout chart on felt.
2 with A 11
10 10
9 9
8 8
7 7
6 6
5 5
4 4
3 3
2 2
j-k 1

No math whiz, just trying Win $65 plus 13 as payoffs are to 1, not for one. Hit all 13 combos .
Just getting close, 1 in 13 for a duece, 13 in 13 for all payoff combos. 9 I said getting close )
169/2 =84,5 bet for $78 return = 8.3% HE

Expect the correct answer is just a few minutes, I am fairly certain.
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Hittem
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February 16th, 2016 at 4:23:53 PM permalink
Such a dumb BJ sidebet.
ChesterDog
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February 16th, 2016 at 5:02:14 PM permalink
Quote: Mow21

...a very countable side bet...



I hope it's dealt from a shoe and not from a continuous shuffle machine.
Here's a nice simple count: twos = -3; and faces (but not 10-spots, of course) +1. The bet should be +EV above a true count of +1.

Another count is: twos = -6; faces, threes, fours, and fives = +1. The bet should be +EV above a true count of +2.
teliot
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February 16th, 2016 at 5:06:30 PM permalink
Quote: ChesterDog

Here's a nice simple count: twos = -3; and faces (but not 10-spots, of course) +1. The bet should be +EV above a true count of +1.

Betting correlation = 0.943.

Quote:

Another count is: twos = -6; faces, threes, fours, and fives = +1. The bet should be +EV above a true count of +2.

Betting correlation = 0.989. Much better!
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Mow21
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February 16th, 2016 at 5:41:52 PM permalink
Thanks for the comments guys! Next time I go I'll be sure to put the whole table into my phone so I can share for sure!

The game was out of a 6D shoe. H17, no surrender, .75-1.25 decks cut off (which I think is pretty decent)
Mow21
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February 18th, 2016 at 1:13:56 PM permalink
I've got the table! And it's better than I had thought!

Deuces Wild - BJ side bet
2-2 ............. 20-1
2-10............ 10-1
2-9.............. 9-1
2-8.............. 8-1
2-7.............. 7-1
2-6.............. 6-1
2-5.............. 5-1
2-4.............. 4-1
2-3.............. 3-1
2-A,K,Q,J... 1-1

I was mistaken last time I saw the table. It said A-J 1-1 (I thought that meant AJ BJ) which means A,K,Q,J 1-1.

This seems extremely exploitable as some have mentioned in the comments! Would counting this be better than Hi-Lo?
Romes
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February 18th, 2016 at 1:31:37 PM permalink
Quote: Mow21

...This seems extremely exploitable as some have mentioned in the comments! Would counting this be better than Hi-Lo?

Depends on what the max bet is (probably only $25). So even if it's exploitable they might not let you bet very much when you do have an advantage, thus you won't make much off of it.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.

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