Vegas honeymoon - Blackjack rules on the strip?

I'm going to Vegas for my honeymoon in two weeks and I'd like to play some blackjack while I'm there. I will play Craps with my lady but I want to do some 21 as well.

I've recently been spoiled by a game with dealer standing on Soft 17 on the Myrtle Beach Big M casino boat. The rules there were 6 deck, $25 minimum, 3-2 BJ and stand on all 17s. I won about 5 different hands with the dealer standing on a Soft 17 vs my 18 or 19 and that feels great. I ended up about $1700 up for the cruise on those tables because the cards were great.

I'd love to find a casino on the Strip that has similar rules. Does anyone know of a spot? Bonuses if it's Single or double Deck. I know Bellagio has a double deck 3-2 game at $25 or $50 minimum but I don't remember if it's stand on soft 17 or not.

Thanks gents!

Hi, jsausley. You're in luck. Click on surveys at the top of this page and go to blackjack. This latest version is only six weeks old so it should be fairly accurate. Remember that minimums will decrease in off hours and that things can change quickly. If you need specifics on a certain house regarding heat or anything else just ask. Someone will be with you shortly.

Quote: jsausley

I've recently been spoiled by a game with dealer standing on Soft 17 on the Myrtle Beach Big M casino boat. The rules there were 6 deck, $25 minimum, 3-2 BJ and stand on all 17s. I won about 5 different hands with the dealer standing on a Soft 17 vs my 18 or 19 and that feels great. I ended up about $1700 up for the cruise on those tables because the cards were great.

I don't suppose you know the answer, but I wonder who regulates such a situation? If the casino boat decides it wants to remove several aces and tens from the shoe, who's jurisdiction would such a violation fall under?

Back before Florida had land casinos, there were casino boats leaving from several destinations, and this WAS an issue. Once they left port, they were under no one's jurisdiction and could and WOULD cheat in ways that would be criminal in a land based jurisdiction.

Good luck with your marriage. That might be the biggest gamble you make in Vegas. :)

I've heard people claim that before. I saw plenty of aces and plenty of tens come out on the casino boat. The dealer and the players were getting good cards, it was just a matter of winning your splits and doubles and pressing at the right time.

Furthermore I'm no expert on statistics but it seems pulling aces would be a bad idea for the house. When the dealer strikes a blackjack she wins against everyone at the table, whereas we only win 3-2. Why would the house want to lessen the chances of a blackjack on their side?

I'm not superstitious against people rigging Blackjack. Blackjack can't be rigged, in my opinion. Even if you tried to rig a deck, one bad player splitting when he shouldn't, or someone playing two hands, or someone sitting down midshoe (which is allowed on the boat, even at the $50 table) would change the rig. Slot machines on the other hand -- I don't even play those things in Vegas when the NGC has an eye on them, so I definitely wouldn't play them in international waters.

My dealer was previously a dealer at Beau Rivage in Biloxi. She seemed to enjoy the game and even admitted to playing herself sometimes (which most dealers don't do). I would like to think that if something that shady was going on she wouldn't want to be involved there.

Quote: jsausley

I'm going to Vegas for my honeymoon in two weeks and I'd like to play some blackjack while I'm there. I will play Craps with my lady but I want to do some 21 as well.

I've recently been spoiled by a game with dealer standing on Soft 17 on the Myrtle Beach Big M casino boat. The rules there were 6 deck, $25 minimum, 3-2 BJ and stand on all 17s. I won about 5 different hands with the dealer standing on a Soft 17 vs my 18 or 19 and that feels great. I ended up about $1700 up for the cruise on those tables because the cards were great.

I'd love to find a casino on the Strip that has similar rules. Does anyone know of a spot? Bonuses if it's Single or double Deck. I know Bellagio has a double deck 3-2 game at $25 or $50 minimum but I don't remember if it's stand on soft 17 or not.

Thanks gents!

I've played the Big M out of Myrtle Beach but think I remember the games being H17, not S17. Of course I was paying the red chip tables, maybe the green was S17?
I also wish you the best of luck on your upcoming nuptials. I used to be in love with the concept of marriage, tried it several times in fact ;-) The concept changed recently, no doubt you noticed....

Quote: kewlj

I don't suppose you know the answer, but I wonder who regulates such a situation? If the casino boat decides it wants to remove several aces and tens from the shoe, who's jurisdiction would such a violation fall under?

Back before Florida had land casinos, there were casino boats leaving from several destinations, and this WAS an issue. Once they left port, they were under no one's jurisdiction and could and WOULD cheat in ways that would be criminal in a land based jurisdiction.

Good luck with your marriage. That might be the biggest gamble you make in Vegas. :)

The Victory spreads the decks and proves all the cards are there before they shuffle, for all games. House required procedure. (Out of Canaveral and Jacksonville.) Just an update FWIW. Can't speak for any other current boats. I did hear about the occasional "thing" on a couple boats no longer in existence.

Quote: beachbumbabs

The Victory spreads the decks and proves all the cards are there before they shuffle, for all games. House required procedure. (Out of Canaveral and Jacksonville.) Just an update FWIW. Can't speak for any other current boats. I did hear about the occasional "thing" on a couple boats no longer in existence.

Yeah, the stories and incidents I am referring to were made public quite a while ago. Probably lead to legitimate operations adopting procedures like you mentioned to try to show some transparency. That's a good thing.

Quote: TwoFeathersATL

I also wish you the best of luck on your upcoming nuptials. I used to be in love with the concept of marriage, tried it several times in fact ;-) The concept changed recently, no doubt you noticed....

Is this a thinly veiled reference to something?? Say what's on your mind. :/

Quote: kewlj

Is this a thinly veiled reference to something?? Say what's on your mind. :/

Dear Mr J,
I have a tremendous amount of respect for you. I respect your lifestyle, both in the the casino and at home. I think I have expressed those sentiments before. My comment was not "thinly veiled", it was rather obvious. It is my belief, right or wrong, it is not going to change. I hope we can still respect each other's beliefs. I am trying very hard.
Sincerely, 2F

Quote: TwoFeathersATL

Dear Mr J,
I have a tremendous amount of respect for you. I respect your lifestyle, both in the the casino and at home. I think I have expressed those sentiments before. My comment was not "thinly veiled", it was rather obvious. It is my belief, right or wrong, it is not going to change. I hope we can still respect each other's beliefs. I am trying very hard.
Sincerely, 2F

Oh, 2feathers, you are just too easy. I was just trying to rile you up. :)

I don't have a problem if you or anyone else don't care for my lifestyle. Nor do I have a problem with anyone having a problem with the 'new' definition of marriage.

The thing that seems odd to me is how anyone, yourself included thinks that their own situation and their own private commitment to their spouse/partner/wife....whatever, is in any way effected because who the government allows to get married. The fact that I am married to my partner has absolutely no effect on your commitment and marriage to Mrs2feathers, number 1, 2 or 3, or how ever many until you get it right. :) It is a private arrangement between the two of you and any arrangement between other people should have no effect on your own arrangement and commitment.

You will disagree with what I just said, but really what I just conveyed is in a nutshell why the ruling went as it did. At no point any where along the legal proceedings at any level, could anti-gay marriage plaintiffs, explain how allowing others to marry harms their own relationship or marriage and that is precisely why you folks lost this battle.

My favorite is when anti-gay marriage advocates, who are on their second or third marriage talk about ruining the 'sanctity of marriage'. That's just precious. Like they have no issue with the "to death do us part" that they chose to violate. So hypocritical.

Nothing personal. I am not meaning to pick on you for divorce. That too is a way of the times. Really it's about people seeking and finding happiness and as long as any two people aren't harming anyone else, nothing else matters. Your a 'thinking guy'....think about that, my friend. :) Meanwhile I truly hope the current or next (if you are between) Mrs Twofeathers is the one that leads to YOUR happiness.

Married for 14+ years this time ( a new record ). And I never divorced anyone, they divorced me.
Imagine that jhit!
We're good.

Quote: kewlj

I don't suppose you know the answer, but I wonder who regulates such a situation? If the casino boat decides it wants to remove several aces and tens from the shoe, who's jurisdiction would such a violation fall under?

KJ - Long time, no talk. Where have you been hiding? :-)

I have an AP friend who had a bad experience on that S. Carolina boat. He bought in for 2K and won 4K. When he went to cash out, they gave him back his 2K buy-in and refused to give him what he won, stating they identified him as a card counter. He started to make a fuss and they said they'd lock him in the brig until returning to shore if he didn't calm. This happened about 4 years ago.

Quote: 21forme

KJ - Long time, no talk. Where have you been hiding? :-)

I have an AP friend who had a bad experience on that S. Carolina boat. He bought in for 2K and won 4K. When he went to cash out, they gave him back his 2K buy-in and refused to give him what he won, stating they identified him as a card counter. He started to make a fuss and they said they'd lock him in the brig until returning to shore if he didn't calm. This happened about 4 years ago.

Yeah, these are the kind of stories I had heard in the past about boats out of Florida as well. I won't play that type of jurisdiction and that goes for Indian casinos as well. I like to know where I stand and if that mean I miss some opportunities, so be it.

I've been here, 21forme. :) I have taken a break from BJ21 and not renewed my subscription for the time being, if that's what you are referring to. :/

Quote: kewlj

I've been here, 21forme. :) I have taken a break from BJ21 and not renewed my subscription for the time being, if that's what you are referring to. :/

Yes, that's what I meant. Surprised you're taking a break from GC. As you know, I don't read BJTF any more, and check in here once every few weeks, so email me if you want to contact me.