Question about hitting soft 17
March 8th, 2015 at 7:11:40 PM
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Let's say the dealer has the following hand of Cards : 4,Ace,2,Ace
Would the dealer quit dealing cards at this point, because his/her hand total would be 4 + 11 + 2 + 1 = 18 (I am assuming this is a hard hand after the second Ace was counted as a 1.)
Or would the dealer ever just count both Aces as a value of 1, and keep hitting until 17 is reached or surpassed:
Example : 4,Ace,2,Ace,2,2,2,2,4
This probably sounds like a real rookie question, so I appreciate your help.
Would the dealer quit dealing cards at this point, because his/her hand total would be 4 + 11 + 2 + 1 = 18 (I am assuming this is a hard hand after the second Ace was counted as a 1.)
Or would the dealer ever just count both Aces as a value of 1, and keep hitting until 17 is reached or surpassed:
Example : 4,Ace,2,Ace,2,2,2,2,4
This probably sounds like a real rookie question, so I appreciate your help.
March 8th, 2015 at 7:12:55 PM
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It would be a soft 17.
Aces always count as 1, unless counting it as 11 would make a dealer have 18-21.
Aces always count as 1, unless counting it as 11 would make a dealer have 18-21.
March 8th, 2015 at 7:14:36 PM
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Quote: RSIt would be a soft 17.
Aces always count as 1, unless counting it as 11 would make a dealer have 18-21.
4-A-2-A would be 8 or 18 if it were the player. The dealer would stand on Soft-18.
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March 9th, 2015 at 2:25:27 AM
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The ace counts as a one for the dealer when the total value of his hand is 7 or lower.
If the dealer has a soft 18 or higher, he stands.
For example, A23A is a soft seventeen, so the dealer must hit.
If he were to draw another Ace for A23AA, he would stand because it's a soft eighteen.
If the dealer has a soft 18 or higher, he stands.
For example, A23A is a soft seventeen, so the dealer must hit.
If he were to draw another Ace for A23AA, he would stand because it's a soft eighteen.
March 9th, 2015 at 2:34:57 AM
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Soft 18 is always 18 and stand for the dealer.
March 9th, 2015 at 5:49:22 AM
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Another way to explain it, is the dealer pulls until the count is anything higher than a soft 17 even if it is a soft 18-19-20 or in AceofSpades case a soft 21. All 'soft' for he dealer higher than a soft 17, the dealer will mandatorily stand.
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March 9th, 2015 at 9:17:25 AM
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There was a thread started about a month ago with the very same title discussing the very same thing. Can they be consolidated to avoid confusion?
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March 9th, 2015 at 9:20:02 AM
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No, can't combine. Can split or move threads but can't append one to another.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
March 9th, 2015 at 10:18:12 AM
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Quote: SnapBackLet's say the dealer has the following hand of Cards : 4,Ace,2,Ace
That is a soft 18 and the dealer would stand, under any rules.
What I think you mean to use as an example is something like 3,A,2,A, which would be a soft 17 and if the "dealer hits soft 17" then he would hit that.
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March 9th, 2015 at 10:51:56 AM
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Quote: WizardThat is a soft 18 and the dealer would stand, under any rules.
What I think you mean to use as an example is something like 3,A,2,A, which would be a soft 17 and if the "dealer hits soft 17" then he would hit that.
Actually, I think the OP's example was correct in terms of what he wanted to know. I am reading the question as, "Does H17 mean that if the dealer hits a soft 17 and draws an Ace (or, presumably, a 2, 3, or 4), does the dealer stand, or does the number remain "soft" and the dealer hits?".
As already answered, the dealer always stands on soft 18, 19, 20, and 21, whether or not the dealer just hit a soft 17.
Now there's a question: what advantage would the player receive if the dealer had to hit all soft hands resulting from a soft 17 (e.g. if the dealer has to hit Ace-6-4)?
March 9th, 2015 at 10:53:24 AM
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I would love to play a game in which the dealer was forced to hit on a soft 21, aka blackjack
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March 9th, 2015 at 11:45:12 AM
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I think AceofSpades would also!
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March 9th, 2015 at 11:49:30 AM
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Quote: Gabes22I would love to play a game in which the dealer was forced to hit on a soft 21, aka blackjack
5,5, A is also "soft 21"
March 9th, 2015 at 2:21:28 PM
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It'd be pretty cool if the "hit soft 17" rule expands to that anytime the dealer has a 17 containing at least one ace, it'd be hit. Not gonna happen though because hitting a hard 17 is not in the best interest of the hand.
March 9th, 2015 at 6:01:52 PM
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Quote: RedJackIt'd be pretty cool if the "hit soft 17" rule expands to that anytime the dealer has a 17 containing at least one ace, it'd be hit. Not gonna happen though because hitting a hard 17 is not in the best interest of the hand.
I don't think you know what "soft" means.
