In an 8 deck game could the dealer ever get this many aces : A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A
for the dealer to have. Meaning 18 consecutive aces for a hand total of 18?
A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A
Or would the dealer never deal that many Aces to him/herself, instead stopping on the 7th card when one of the Aces could be used as a 12,
and the hand total would add up to 18?
Quote: SnapBackSuppose you are in a Casino in Vegas, and they are using 8 decks, on a classic black jack game where the dealer hits soft 17. Is the following hand possible
for the dealer to have. Meaning 18 consecutive aces for a hand total of 18?
A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A
Or would the dealer never deal that many Aces to him/herself, instead stopping on the 7th card when one of the Aces could be used as a 12,
and the hand total would add up to 18?
No, the dealer cannot have 18 consecutive aces. He'd stop after 8 for a total of 18 in H17. Aces do not count as 12. They are 11 or 1.
Quote: GreasyjohnBut the player could have a 21-card 21, all aces. (Yeah, he'd have to hit a soft 21. But since we're talking about dealer 13-card 21s, why not. If you've already gotten 11 straight aces, go for it just on principle. Heck, hitting a soft 19 consisting of 9 aces and you're already in The Twilight Zone.)
I think the probability of that happening would be shown to be basically impossible. Yeah the count can be +200, but sims show it never will get that high.
Quote: SonuvabishI think the probability of that happening would be shown to be basically impossible. Yeah the count can be +200, but sims show it never will get that high.
How could a shoe (8 decks or less) get to a count of +200? Or are you referring to a different count (not HiLo)?
Quote: SnapBackSuppose you are in a Casino in Vegas, and they are using 8 decks, on a classic black jack game where the dealer hits soft 17. Is the following hand possible
for the dealer to have. Meaning 18 consecutive aces for a hand total of 18?
A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A,A
Or would the dealer never deal that many Aces to him/herself, instead stopping on the 7th card when one of the Aces could be used as a 12,
and the hand total would add up to 18?
This was answered in the other thread that you started. An ace is never counted as 12 in regular blackjack. An ace is counted as 1 or 11. Ace, ace is a soft hand and is treated as any other soft hand by the dealer. Perhaps the confusion lies with what you hear the dealer say upon dealing himself two aces. He will call out 2 or 12. That's where you hear the number 12. He is counting one ace as 11 and the other as 1 for a two card total of 12. You very seldom see that hand hit US as most players opt to split which gets them one card on each ace. In many European casinos the correct play would be to hit A,A against the dealer's 10 or ace.
Hasn't this come up in live play? How was it handled? Did you ever tell a dealer that you wanted an ace to count as 12?
Quote: GreasyjohnBut the player could have a 21-card 21, all aces. (Yeah, he'd have to hit a soft 21. But since we're talking about dealer 13-card 21s, why not. If you've already gotten 11 straight aces, go for it just on principle. Heck, hitting a soft 19 consisting of 9 aces and you're already in The Twilight Zone.)
Wouldn't it stop at 8 aces?
Quote: RSIt is possible for a dealer to get 18 consecutive aces, but not all in the same hand.
How could a shoe (8 decks or less) get to a count of +200? Or are you referring to a different count (not HiLo)?
I just made that number up dude. If you wanna use hi lo, then how about 80. Sims show there's a limit in the upper 30s.
Quote: SnapBackOr would the dealer never deal that many Aces to him/herself, instead stopping on the 7th card when one of the Aces could be used as a 12,
and the hand total would add up to 18?
The dealer's drawing rules:
- Must hit 16 or less
- Must stand on 18 or higher (soft or otherwise)
- Must stand on hard 17
- H17/S17 - depending on table rules, the dealer will either HIT soft 17, or STAND on soft 17
So, if we assume H17, and an all-ace hand, 8 aces is the limit. The dealer would have soft 16, draw, then soft 17, draw, then stop at soft 18.
If it's a S17 table, 7 aces is the limit. The dealer would have soft 16, draw, and then stand on soft 17.
As has been pointed out - this is not the most aces it is possible for the dealer to have in one round. This is just the limit of consecutive aces drawn.
Again, if you see the dealer pull a hand like this, the aces will be rather depleted, and you should abstain from playing until the shuffle, as blackjacks will be a bit hard to come by.
