Blackjack basic strategy variations for 2 decks, S17, DAS, NS
Quote: 21empressCan anyone find a basic strategy variations chart for 2 decks, dealer stay soft 17, double on any value, no surrender game?
These can be found on just about any site (let alone the link shared above from this one). You're just looking for a basic strategy engine, where you put in the game conditions and it tells you the basic strategy. Be sure to use the search available on this site, or I'll use one of my favorite phrases: Google It. =)
Quote: 21empressI'm searching for basic strategy VARIATIONS chart (depending on the true count, what to do/bet in each situation accordingly). Next time you should read more carefully, Romes.
The same exact things can be found by searching both this site, and Google. Next time please put a little effort in to searching before requesting assistance =).
Quote: 21empressIs that so? If you find it and show me, I'll venmo you $20.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=blackjack+hi%2Flow+deviations
Looks like that wasn't too terribly difficult =)...
The illustrious 18 can be found on the Wizards main site: https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/card-counting/high-low/
Also: https://www.blackjackinfo.com/card/advanced-strategy-card-instructions/
Not only will this give you deviations, but you can take them with you to casinos and they look like regular BS cards. They're also in just about every blackjack book (Thorp, Wong, Revere, etc, etc).
I do accept $20 Amazon Gift Cards... pm me for my e-mail.
That's the first time I've ever heard that phrase.Quote: 21empressI'll venmo you
Quote: teddysThat's the first time I've ever heard that phrase.
Venmo is pretty efficient. My club at college used it so members could pay for dues, trips, etc. better than dealing with cash or checks. I used it once to pay a friend for gas money
Quote: 21empressCan anyone find a basic strategy variations chart for 2 decks, dealer stay soft 17, double on any value, no surrender game?
21empress Are you looking for a basic strategy 'DEVIATIONS' chart?? If so I can give you this. Which counting system do you use?
Quote: theOmega62321empress Are you looking for a basic strategy 'DEVIATIONS' chart?? If so I can give you this. Which counting system do you use?
Is there a difference for deviations between double deck and 4-8 deck? Because I just use the same deviations for both of them. My deviations only change a little between h17 and s17. Can you send me deviations for hi-lo?
Split 6,6 vs 7 and 7,7 vs 8. Double 11 vs ace and 9 vs 2. As always, let the count determine your decisions.
Hi-Lo 2D H17 DAS NS Basic Strategy Deviations:
Take Insurance at +3
8 dbls against 4 (+5)
8 dbls against 5 (+3)
8 dbls against 6 (+1)
9 dbls against 2 (+1)
9 hits against 3 (-1)
9 hits against 4 (-3)
9 hits against 5 (-5)
9 dbls against 7 (+3)
10 hits against 8 (-5)
10 hits against 9 (-2)
10 dbls against 10 (+4)
10 dbls against Ace (+3)
11 hits against 9 (-5)
11 hits against 10 (-5)
11 dbls against Ace (0)
12 stands against 2 (+3)
12 stands against 3 (+1)
12 hits against 4 (0)
12 hits against 5 (-2)
12 hits against 6 (-4)
13 hits against 2 (-1)
13 hits against 3 (-3)
13 hits against 4 (-5)
13 hits against 5 (-5)
14 hits against 2 (-4)
15 stands against 10 (+4)
15 stands against Ace (+5)
16 stands against 9 (+5)
16 stands against 10 (0)
16 stands against Ace (+3)
There are more if you want the deviations for splits & soft hands (most ppl dont). Would you like me to provide them?
Quote: theOmega623I hope this is what you are looking for, its not a chart but you can use the information here to create your own chart in paint or something (if you cant memorize them like this).
Hi-Lo 2D H17 DAS NS Basic Strategy Deviations:
Take Insurance at +3
8 dbls against 4 (+5)
8 dbls against 5 (+3)
8 dbls against 6 (+1)
9 dbls against 2 (+1)
9 hits against 3 (-1)
9 hits against 4 (-3)
9 hits against 5 (-5)
9 dbls against 7 (+3)
10 hits against 8 (-5)
10 hits against 9 (-2)
10 dbls against 10 (+4)
10 dbls against Ace (+3)
11 hits against 9 (-5)
11 hits against 10 (-5)
11 dbls against Ace (0)
12 stands against 2 (+3)
12 stands against 3 (+1)
12 hits against 4 (0)
12 hits against 5 (-2)
12 hits against 6 (-4)
13 hits against 2 (-1)
13 hits against 3 (-3)
13 hits against 4 (-5)
13 hits against 5 (-5)
14 hits against 2 (-4)
15 stands against 10 (+4)
15 stands against Ace (+5)
16 stands against 9 (+5)
16 stands against 10 (0)
16 stands against Ace (+3)
There are more if you want the deviations for splits & soft hands (most ppl dont). Would you like me to provide them?
Thanks for posting these. Of the ones you listed, I make 19 of those deviations (sweet 16 and doubling 8 plays) plus another 12 surrender deviations. I have the same numbers that you have. Where do you get your numbers from? I get mine from cvcx. Cvcx lists indices for single and multi deck. So yea, I guess there's big difference between 1 and 2 decks, but minimal difference for 2 and 6 decks
This is basic strategy for 2 deck for both H17 and S17. Am I wrong?Quote: theOmega623Hi-Lo 2D H17 DAS NS Basic Strategy Deviations:
9 dbls against 2 (+1)
So how can it be a deviation from BS?Quote: theOmega623JimRockford: Yes that is correct.
So I assume it is correct basic strategy because 9 vs. dealer 2 is composed of small cards and adds 2 or more to the TC on average. InterestingQuote: theOmega623Im sorry, when using only basic strategy I believe you go ahead & DBL 9 against 2 all the time. If you are counting using the Hi-Lo, you only DBL when you have a true count of +1 or higher.
Jim - That's precisely correct. Even 'worst' case scenario, 7-2 v dealer 2, that's still +2 in double deck, so TC = +1.
