Time to Settle Side Bets
December 12th, 2014 at 3:53:52 PM
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I was just wondering if anyone has calculated how long it takes to settle most Blackjack side bets. In other words, how many fewer rounds per hour will be dealt at a table with all or most players placing side bets vs. a table without side bets, or nobody placing side bets? Also, at what point would an average player (House Edge of 1.5%) actually save money by placing a $1 side bet, with all of the additional settlement time? E.g. a player playing $X per hand or more will lose less money in 4 hours by playing $X per hand plus $1 on a side bet. Any answers or suggestions are appreciated.
December 12th, 2014 at 6:24:56 PM
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Are you looking for a excuse to justify playing a side bet?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
December 15th, 2014 at 6:31:22 AM
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Something like that. It's more for ratings purposes. Well, has anyone estimated yet? Sometimes, if I'm betting $100+, I'll put a dollar on a side bet to slow down the dealer. Is it worth it?
December 15th, 2014 at 6:38:35 AM
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Quote: nvr55xxSomething like that. It's more for ratings purposes. Well, has anyone estimated yet? Sometimes, if I'm betting $100+, I'll put a dollar on a side bet to slow down the dealer. Is it worth it?
expected loss about 10 cents on that dollar & I'd guess you buy "one bet less" in slowing .... EV of a $10 bet at 1.5% = 15 cents
if you can determine it is 2 bets slower, you win; 1.5% is more than should be though, sir
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December 15th, 2014 at 8:35:14 AM
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Depends on the side bet.
hand-held game it takes longer to settle because you can f*ck around by not showing the dealer your cards immediately.
Shoe games are quicker to settle for the exact opposite reason.
LL is easy to settle.
Royal Match or other suited-type side bets are easy to settle.
Same with pair square -- easy.
House money is difficult to settle because there are so many conditions it can win. Also, you can f*ck around by taking a few extra seconds to decide whether to stack or not stack.
21+3 I imagine is easy to settle and quick. But for a new dealer (i wouldn't count on it), it can potentially take longer to settle.
Biggest factor is if it's hand held or shoe. Also how many other players there are, but that's a secondary factor.
hand-held game it takes longer to settle because you can f*ck around by not showing the dealer your cards immediately.
Shoe games are quicker to settle for the exact opposite reason.
LL is easy to settle.
Royal Match or other suited-type side bets are easy to settle.
Same with pair square -- easy.
House money is difficult to settle because there are so many conditions it can win. Also, you can f*ck around by taking a few extra seconds to decide whether to stack or not stack.
21+3 I imagine is easy to settle and quick. But for a new dealer (i wouldn't count on it), it can potentially take longer to settle.
Biggest factor is if it's hand held or shoe. Also how many other players there are, but that's a secondary factor.
December 15th, 2014 at 10:59:44 AM
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Quote: nvr55xxSometimes, if I'm betting $100+, I'll put a dollar on a side bet to slow down the dealer. Is it worth it?
I don't think so. I think you'll do better to wait 5 seconds before signalling your play, while you contemplate your decision.
This will annoy anyone at the table who is trying to play quickly.
May the cards fall in your favor.
