Vegas Vacation with AOS
July 28th, 2014 at 4:58:24 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfI doubt MR Damon sat and counted every hand properly (did he count pushes). Also as I pointed out(Matt kind of suggests this ) GC may not know how to play a lick, he could ave been playing like a complete drunk donkey, IE splitting 10 10 vs A, hitting 16 vs dealers 6. 30 and in a row is not 25, some one else will need to do the math. Are we assuming Matt is more credible then you? Because, He thinks 25 is a record. Next time I see Matt, I will tell him you broke GC record.Quote: aceofspadesQuote: AxelWolfWhy poke the bear? I thought the entire reason you self suspended/nuked was due to this thread. Things were almost forgotten. Why stir the pot? 30 VS 25 is significant. George could have been hitting 20's for all we know.Quote: aceofspadesQuote: sodawaterQuote: aceofspadesI'll just leave this here:
Haha.
Well it looks like Matt Damon is mistaken or exaggerating.
Nothing like this can EVER happen to anyone I guess
…but the universe can come into existence…?
I am not poking the bear - I am merely showing someone else who had something similar to me happening (and this happened at one table to him)
His strategy, unless he was purposely busting, is meaningless
July 28th, 2014 at 5:04:49 PM
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Hitting 16 VS the dealers 6 may not be purposely busting just stupid strategy. You cant ntell me that's meaningless. However the story is meaningless (other then entertainment) I have no doubt its exaggerated or something.Quote: aceofspadesQuote: AxelWolfI doubt MR Damon sat and counted every hand properly (did he count pushes). Also as I pointed out(Matt kind of suggests this ) GC may not know how to play a lick, he could ave been playing like a complete drunk donkey, IE splitting 10 10 vs A, hitting 16 vs dealers 6. 30 and in a row is not 25, some one else will need to do the math. Are we assuming Matt is more credible then you? Because, He thinks 25 is a record. Next time I see Matt, I will tell him you broke GC record.Quote: aceofspadesQuote: AxelWolfWhy poke the bear? I thought the entire reason you self suspended/nuked was due to this thread. Things were almost forgotten. Why stir the pot? 30 VS 25 is significant. George could have been hitting 20's for all we know.Quote: aceofspadesQuote: sodawaterQuote: aceofspadesI'll just leave this here:
Haha.
Well it looks like Matt Damon is mistaken or exaggerating.
Nothing like this can EVER happen to anyone I guess
…but the universe can come into existence…?
I am not poking the bear - I am merely showing someone else who had something similar to me happening (and this happened at one table to him)
His strategy, unless he was purposely busting, is meaningless
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 28th, 2014 at 5:08:07 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfHitting 16 VS the dealers 6 may not be purposely busting just stupid strategy. You cant ntell me that's meaningless. However the story is meaningless (other then entertainment) I have no doubt its exaggerated or something.Quote: aceofspadesQuote: AxelWolfI doubt MR Damon sat and counted every hand properly (did he count pushes). Also as I pointed out(Matt kind of suggests this ) GC may not know how to play a lick, he could ave been playing like a complete drunk donkey, IE splitting 10 10 vs A, hitting 16 vs dealers 6. 30 and in a row is not 25, some one else will need to do the math. Are we assuming Matt is more credible then you? Because, He thinks 25 is a record. Next time I see Matt, I will tell him you broke GC record.Quote: aceofspadesQuote: AxelWolfWhy poke the bear? I thought the entire reason you self suspended/nuked was due to this thread. Things were almost forgotten. Why stir the pot? 30 VS 25 is significant. George could have been hitting 20's for all we know.Quote: aceofspadesQuote: sodawaterQuote: aceofspadesI'll just leave this here:
Haha.
Well it looks like Matt Damon is mistaken or exaggerating.
Nothing like this can EVER happen to anyone I guess
…but the universe can come into existence…?
I am not poking the bear - I am merely showing someone else who had something similar to me happening (and this happened at one table to him)
His strategy, unless he was purposely busting, is meaningless
Once again, dismissing things merely because you were not there. How can you ever believe ANYTHING in a history textbook?
July 28th, 2014 at 5:17:09 PM
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Years ago I got clipped for 24 straight loss at the bj tables at the TI; so it sounds kosher to me, hey hey.
" Life is a well of joy; but where the rabble drinks too, all wells are poisoned!" Nietzsche
July 28th, 2014 at 5:29:24 PM
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Well thanks for using that example , you just proved my point. Many textbooks have incorrect information.Quote: aceofspadesQuote: AxelWolfHitting 16 VS the dealers 6 may not be purposely busting just stupid strategy. You cant ntell me that's meaningless. However the story is meaningless (other then entertainment) I have no doubt its exaggerated or something.Quote: aceofspadesQuote: AxelWolfI doubt MR Damon sat and counted every hand properly (did he count pushes). Also as I pointed out(Matt kind of suggests this ) GC may not know how to play a lick, he could ave been playing like a complete drunk donkey, IE splitting 10 10 vs A, hitting 16 vs dealers 6. 30 and in a row is not 25, some one else will need to do the math. Are we assuming Matt is more credible then you? Because, He thinks 25 is a record. Next time I see Matt, I will tell him you broke GC record.Quote: aceofspadesQuote: AxelWolfWhy poke the bear? I thought the entire reason you self suspended/nuked was due to this thread. Things were almost forgotten. Why stir the pot? 30 VS 25 is significant. George could have been hitting 20's for all we know.Quote: aceofspadesQuote: sodawaterQuote: aceofspadesI'll just leave this here:
Haha.
Well it looks like Matt Damon is mistaken or exaggerating.
Nothing like this can EVER happen to anyone I guess
…but the universe can come into existence…?
I am not poking the bear - I am merely showing someone else who had something similar to me happening (and this happened at one table to him)
His strategy, unless he was purposely busting, is meaningless
Once again, dismissing things merely because you were not there. How can you ever believe ANYTHING in a history textbook?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 28th, 2014 at 5:29:24 PM
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Well thanks for using that example , you just proved my point. Many textbooks have incorrect information. This example is not history but even worst "MATH". here is a quote: Texas State Board of Education found a total of 109,263 errors in the math textbooks being reviewed for use in the 2008 school year, it was seen as a pretty serious problem .Of course this could be wrong to. You just have to use your own judgment and logic.Quote: aceofspadesQuote: AxelWolfHitting 16 VS the dealers 6 may not be purposely busting just stupid strategy. You cant ntell me that's meaningless. However the story is meaningless (other then entertainment) I have no doubt its exaggerated or something.Quote: aceofspadesQuote: AxelWolfI doubt MR Damon sat and counted every hand properly (did he count pushes). Also as I pointed out(Matt kind of suggests this ) GC may not know how to play a lick, he could ave been playing like a complete drunk donkey, IE splitting 10 10 vs A, hitting 16 vs dealers 6. 30 and in a row is not 25, some one else will need to do the math. Are we assuming Matt is more credible then you? Because, He thinks 25 is a record. Next time I see Matt, I will tell him you broke GC record.Quote: aceofspadesQuote: AxelWolfWhy poke the bear? I thought the entire reason you self suspended/nuked was due to this thread. Things were almost forgotten. Why stir the pot? 30 VS 25 is significant. George could have been hitting 20's for all we know.Quote: aceofspadesQuote: sodawaterQuote: aceofspadesI'll just leave this here:
Haha.
Well it looks like Matt Damon is mistaken or exaggerating.
Nothing like this can EVER happen to anyone I guess
…but the universe can come into existence…?
I am not poking the bear - I am merely showing someone else who had something similar to me happening (and this happened at one table to him)
His strategy, unless he was purposely busting, is meaningless
Once again, dismissing things merely because you were not there. How can you ever believe ANYTHING in a history textbook?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 28th, 2014 at 5:52:56 PM
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Quote: aceofspades
Once again, dismissing things merely because you were not there. How can you ever believe ANYTHING in a history textbook?
Russian history textbooks - After beating Germany in 1945, Russia decided to join the allies and declared war on Japan.
Japan surrendered after Russia declared war.
Yea the Russian textbook is correct, Japan did surrender after Russia declared war but that's not why they surrendered.
TX board of education wants textbooks treating intelligent design as science. TX is so big, Publishers just offer the rest of the country what crummy textbooks TX approves.
My high school math class found a bunch of textbook mistakes. Math teacher suggested we make a project of it throughout the school year then send the results to the publisher.
Us kids just rolled our eyes.
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
July 29th, 2014 at 2:02:11 AM
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There's a 0.000001% chance you lose 30 hands in a row? Are we talking about a specific set of 30 hands? Or someone has that chance of losing 30 straight hands, lifetime? You play enough, weird shit happens.
It's like half the questions on Wizard's question survey thing, "Someone rolled 5 Yo's in a row at the craps table, what're the odds of that?!" Well the odds are 100%.
It's like half the questions on Wizard's question survey thing, "Someone rolled 5 Yo's in a row at the craps table, what're the odds of that?!" Well the odds are 100%.
July 29th, 2014 at 2:47:58 AM
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Didn't someone claim 18 yo's in a row here? I see references regarding it however, its so out of line I assumed some Varmenti/ gr8player type said it.Quote: RSThere's a 0.000001% chance you lose 30 hands in a row? Are we talking about a specific set of 30 hands? Or someone has that chance of losing 30 straight hands, lifetime? You play enough, weird shit happens.
It's like half the questions on Wizard's question survey thing, "Someone rolled 5 Yo's in a row at the craps table, what're the odds of that?!" Well the odds are 100%.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 29th, 2014 at 4:16:01 AM
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This thread reminded me of the time my wife and I met George Clooney's dad. Nick Clooney and I were sharing a blackjack table at the Sands in Atlantic City in the very early 80s. We had no idea who he was until the pit boss started pestering him about his sister Rosemary. There was no mention of George who was nobody back then. We still didn't make the connection when George became famous.
Then one day while channel surfing, there was Nick hawking golden oldies on PBS and he mentioned his son George. Who knew that joining Mrs. Garrett and company on The Facts of Life would catapult George to stardom? :-)
Then one day while channel surfing, there was Nick hawking golden oldies on PBS and he mentioned his son George. Who knew that joining Mrs. Garrett and company on The Facts of Life would catapult George to stardom? :-)
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
August 12th, 2014 at 6:16:32 PM
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Ace, thanks for the thread--I wished I read it before my trip to Aria a few weeks after yours. I am confirming my suspicion on Aria.
I played at the 2D table at the Aria for about 1 hour, lost about $1000 playing only $25/hand to feel out the table with hi/lo. The table felt "odd" the entire time that made me hesitate on raising my bet or trying to lose more money. To me, ace's and ten's seems less available than what I am use to.
Don't get me wrong, I get beat at Bellagio's 2D game playing $50 and $100, but hi/lo "feels" normal on the number of ten's and non-tens.
Anyway, I tried to pay close attention to the Aria dealer pitching, but I could not tell any odd dealings. Rather, he seems conversational, nice, and sympathetic on taking money. I even threw out a few tokes to see if I can see changes in the dealer, but I lost 8/10 of them.
It could be that both of us had really, really bad luck.
After reading this thread and math-arguments, I am adding another reason besides just super-bad luck for me to avoid Aria.
Call it bad luck, call it something else, but if anyone else seems to have an "unlucky" experience on the 2D table at Aria, I would be curious if the pit boss are doing something fishy. After all, it is statistically more likely for the pit boss to throw out a few A's and 10's than some of calculated odds that Ace went through. Given that pit bosses don't get any tokes and their performance is based on the amount that their tables take in, finding ways to alter the 2D S17 tables would not surprise me. After all, each missing A's or 10's brings down the player advantage.
Just my thoughts. Next time, I would be curious to videotape them changing cards on my smart phone and review it back in the room. Halfway, my suspicions made me start to try to count specific face card and identical pairs and A's, but I ran out of money.
-Kit
I played at the 2D table at the Aria for about 1 hour, lost about $1000 playing only $25/hand to feel out the table with hi/lo. The table felt "odd" the entire time that made me hesitate on raising my bet or trying to lose more money. To me, ace's and ten's seems less available than what I am use to.
Don't get me wrong, I get beat at Bellagio's 2D game playing $50 and $100, but hi/lo "feels" normal on the number of ten's and non-tens.
Anyway, I tried to pay close attention to the Aria dealer pitching, but I could not tell any odd dealings. Rather, he seems conversational, nice, and sympathetic on taking money. I even threw out a few tokes to see if I can see changes in the dealer, but I lost 8/10 of them.
It could be that both of us had really, really bad luck.
After reading this thread and math-arguments, I am adding another reason besides just super-bad luck for me to avoid Aria.
Call it bad luck, call it something else, but if anyone else seems to have an "unlucky" experience on the 2D table at Aria, I would be curious if the pit boss are doing something fishy. After all, it is statistically more likely for the pit boss to throw out a few A's and 10's than some of calculated odds that Ace went through. Given that pit bosses don't get any tokes and their performance is based on the amount that their tables take in, finding ways to alter the 2D S17 tables would not surprise me. After all, each missing A's or 10's brings down the player advantage.
Just my thoughts. Next time, I would be curious to videotape them changing cards on my smart phone and review it back in the room. Halfway, my suspicions made me start to try to count specific face card and identical pairs and A's, but I ran out of money.
-Kit
August 12th, 2014 at 7:17:37 PM
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Quote: KitKatAce, thanks for the thread--I wished I read it before my trip to Aria a few weeks after yours. I am confirming my suspicion on Aria.
I played at the 2D table at the Aria for about 1 hour, lost about $1000 playing only $25/hand to feel out the table with hi/lo. The table felt "odd" the entire time that made me hesitate on raising my bet or trying to lose more money. To me, ace's and ten's seems less available than what I am use to.
Don't get me wrong, I get beat at Bellagio's 2D game playing $50 and $100, but hi/lo "feels" normal on the number of ten's and non-tens.
Anyway, I tried to pay close attention to the Aria dealer pitching, but I could not tell any odd dealings. Rather, he seems conversational, nice, and sympathetic on taking money. I even threw out a few tokes to see if I can see changes in the dealer, but I lost 8/10 of them.
It could be that both of us had really, really bad luck.
After reading this thread and math-arguments, I am adding another reason besides just super-bad luck for me to avoid Aria.
Call it bad luck, call it something else, but if anyone else seems to have an "unlucky" experience on the 2D table at Aria, I would be curious if the pit boss are doing something fishy. After all, it is statistically more likely for the pit boss to throw out a few A's and 10's than some of calculated odds that Ace went through. Given that pit bosses don't get any tokes and their performance is based on the amount that their tables take in, finding ways to alter the 2D S17 tables would not surprise me. After all, each missing A's or 10's brings down the player advantage.
Just my thoughts. Next time, I would be curious to videotape them changing cards on my smart phone and review it back in the room. Halfway, my suspicions made me start to try to count specific face card and identical pairs and A's, but I ran out of money.
-Kit
Aria is a strange place - it seems I can have a trip where I win a small amount then, when there is a losing trip, it is nonstop losing - like, no end in sight, can't win with 20 or 21 type streak
August 12th, 2014 at 7:20:28 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesAria is a strange place - it seems I can have a trip where I win a small amount then, when there is a losing trip, it is nonstop losing - like, no end in sight, can't win with 20 or 21 type streak
It is odd that you associate your winning and losing streaks with the club where they take place. I doubt the cards know they are in the Aria.
August 12th, 2014 at 7:27:07 PM
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Quote: sodawaterIt is odd that you associate your winning and losing streaks with the club where they take place. I doubt the cards know they are in the Aria.
So your win/loss record is the same at every single house you play?
August 12th, 2014 at 7:40:30 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesSo your win/loss record is the same at every single house you play?
No, of course not, but I would never say it seems like I can only win small or lose big at one club as opposed to another. That's just trying to shoehorn patterns and narratives where they don't belong. It's all one big game. It doesn't matter where and when you play, as long as the games are dealt fairly.
September 1st, 2014 at 9:24:12 PM
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I'm itching for a Vegas trip!!!!!
September 1st, 2014 at 9:27:16 PM
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Not healthy to let a itch go unscratched. Providing it's not a felony !
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
September 1st, 2014 at 10:39:25 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesI'm itching for a Vegas trip!!!!!
El Cortez single deck. Speed Count will rip it apart! :-)
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
September 2nd, 2014 at 7:38:59 AM
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Quote: 1BBEl Cortez single deck. Speed Count will rip it apart! :-)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the El Cortez the ultimate sweat joint?
September 2nd, 2014 at 7:42:39 AM
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Not if you're using Speed Count. they'll limo you in and give you RFB :-)Quote: aceofspadesCorrect me if I'm wrong, but isn't the El Cortez the ultimate sweat joint?
September 2nd, 2014 at 7:43:06 AM
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Quote: aceofspadesCorrect me if I'm wrong, but isn't the El Cortez the ultimate sweat joint?
You better believe it. Hit 'em hard and hit 'em fast. They won't recognize speed count but they don't have to. They'll throw you out for winning. You've got to try it at least once.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
September 2nd, 2014 at 2:22:20 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesCorrect me if I'm wrong, but isn't the El Cortez the ultimate sweat joint?
Wouldn't you run a sweat joint if a lucky black chip player could end up owning the casino in no time?
"Man Babes" #AxelFabulous
September 2nd, 2014 at 2:58:01 PM
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Maybe the cute Ms. Epstein can escort me out herself :)
September 7th, 2014 at 9:28:19 PM
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A friend of mine emailed me a website containing motivational books and while perusing the site, I came across this:
Is it a sign...? :-)
Is it a sign...? :-)
September 7th, 2014 at 11:34:53 PM
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Hope not because the guy on the cover looks like a tool.Quote: aceofspadesA friend of mine emailed me a website containing motivational books and while perusing the site, I came across this:
Is it a sign...? :-)
I am a robot.
September 27th, 2014 at 3:48:39 PM
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I wonder why the website promoting that book used "Ace of Spades" in the promotion - did they somehow track my user name? W~E~I~R~D!
September 27th, 2014 at 4:20:12 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesI wonder why the website promoting that book used "Ace of Spades" in the promotion - did they somehow track my user name? W~E~I~R~D!
Whats the plan Ace? AC or Vegas??
September 27th, 2014 at 4:27:00 PM
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Quote: BozWhats the plan Ace? AC or Vegas??
Well, I have not been to AC since the weekend Revel closed and I have not played a hand of blackjack anywhere since August 9th at GNAC and have not been to Vegas since this thread began…however,
I am coming out of this mini-retirement soon!!!
September 29th, 2014 at 8:42:57 AM
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Quote: aceofspades...I am coming out of this mini-retirement soon!!!
About time! Come to my neck of the woods (shouldn't be alllll too far from you =p) and play for red chippies with me lol. The tables I play don't allow Speed Count though ;).
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
