AcesAndEights
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March 2nd, 2014 at 9:27:18 AM permalink
Almost always split aces get one card and you can't do anything with that hand: hit/double/whatever. "hit split aces" is a player-friendly rule that a very few casinos have. I'd assume that if these casinos allow you to hit split aces and also allow DAS, that they would allow you to double down on a split ace.

AFAICT that is the only situation in which this question is relevant.

EDIT: Duh, I forgot the case of split 10s drawing an ace. With a high enough count, a double down in that situation would be warranted (as the consummate pros have pointed out before me). Always remember to refresh the tab you left open from last night, kids.
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Ibeatyouraces
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March 2nd, 2014 at 10:53:38 AM permalink
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anonimuss
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March 2nd, 2014 at 11:51:35 AM permalink
Whether blackjack pays 3:2 or 6:5 makes a difference.
Hunterhill
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March 2nd, 2014 at 12:39:11 PM permalink
Quote: anonimuss

Whether blackjack pays 3:2 or 6:5 makes a difference.

Not in this case.He is talking about doubling on soft 21 not on a blackjack.
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Neutrino
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March 2nd, 2014 at 1:14:44 PM permalink
Quote: VPRookie

Neutrino,

According to my humble calculations, doubling down on soft 21 is a better buy than standing versus 5 and 6, if true count (hi-lo) is 8 or greater. This is true for 6D, S17 game. For different rules (number of decks) the count could be slightly different.

Hope this helps!

VPRookie



Thanks for the calc! Damn that is quite a high requirement, but man it'd sure be a shocking play if the right condition comes
AcesAndEights
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March 2nd, 2014 at 1:51:11 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

You can find the double on split aces rule in northern Michigan. The catch is you can't hit, just double or stand.


Interesting rule. I have never played with it.
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Ibeatyouraces
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March 2nd, 2014 at 2:20:17 PM permalink
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Sonuvabish
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March 2nd, 2014 at 5:15:45 PM permalink
Quote: Neutrino

Just wondering...

(I don't see it on the illustrious 18)



The profit-maximizing index for doubling soft 21 against a six is around +7 or +8. Cardinal rule is to double the index for splitting 10s against the appropriate dealer upcard. The risk-averse index is to never double a soft 21 under any circumstances. I have never done this, and likely never will.
hwccdealer
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March 2nd, 2014 at 7:35:24 PM permalink
Quote: HowMany

Not certain I understand your response.........if I split 10's and draw an Ace, I can't double down? Is that what you are saying?

Just want to clarify- I think I know the casino (based on your name). Thanks buddy!



If you split 10s and get an ace, it's end of hand, same as if you get a blackjack. 21 means end of hand, you stand, soft or hard.

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HowMany
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March 3rd, 2014 at 7:20:05 AM permalink
Quote: hwccdealer

If you split 10s and get an ace, it's end of hand, same as if you get a blackjack. 21 means end of hand, you stand, soft or hard.

And yes, Hollywood Columbus.



Thanks for the reply. That's a very odd rule, indeed.

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