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December 29th, 2013 at 5:30:20 PM permalink
OK - so I am dutifully packing my items for the forthcoming trip to AC tomorrow. A cold and rainy day here in NY (as any of you who watched the Giants/Redskins season ender already know (and yes, I know they play in NJ but the weather was the same)). I am wondering if there will be many people in AC tomorrow as I would presume they will likely arrive on NYE instead of NYE Eve…anyone there already? sodawater? chaunceyb3? EvenBob (lol)

My goal is to have a good time and continue the positive variance from the Vegas trip of last week. Maybe the one and only teliot will chime in on how my threads are disinteresting to mathematicians…?

I wish us all positive variance at the casinos and in life…trip report commences tomorrow.
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December 29th, 2013 at 6:14:55 PM permalink
good luck ace. i'll be in ny for the holiday.
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December 29th, 2013 at 6:15:26 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

good luck ace. i'll be in ny for the holiday.




Thanks soda - were you in AC today - any crowds yet?
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December 29th, 2013 at 6:20:26 PM permalink
I was there earlier this weekend. Very crowded everywhere I went (but I wasn't in revel at all). There will probably be a bit of a lull today and tomorrow and then action picking up huge on Tuesday.
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December 29th, 2013 at 6:33:41 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades



My goal is to have a good time and continue the positive variance from the Vegas trip of last week. ]



If you want to hear god laugh, announce your plans.
Looking forward to the reports, looking forward to
them a lot. I'll home at the computer on NYE, waiting
patiently for NYE schaden. Other than what I get from
the morons in Times Square standing in upper teens
temps for hours.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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December 29th, 2013 at 6:43:14 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

If you want to hear god laugh, announce your plans.
Looking forward to the reports, looking forward to
them a lot. I'll home at the computer on NYE, waiting
patiently for NYE schaden. Other than what I get from
the morons in Times Square standing in upper teens
temps for hours.



Good thing I'm an atheist
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December 29th, 2013 at 6:47:54 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Good thing I'm an atheist



You're my entertainment on NYE, Ace. It's
all about me, in case you forget.

"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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December 30th, 2013 at 4:00:56 PM permalink
OK - all checked in and just had dinner - but, prior to that I played for about 2 ½ hours.

Sat down at a 6D game 25min (but I played usual black chip)

The shoe started out nicely with a blackjack and 3 double downs in the first half of the shoe…at this point I was up ~700
Then the other half of the shoe dropped and I proceeded to lose 13 hands in a row with my lowest hand total being a 19…
i.e. I was dealt a natural 20 but, alas, the dealer had a blackjack
then I was dealt an Ace, 5 against a dealer 5, I doubled and was dealt a 4…too bad the dealer had a 4 under and drew an Ace for 21
more of the same happened for those 12 hands so I proceeded to switch tables…
I jokingly asked the dealer if he would treat me better than losing 13 hands in a row

Of course, he obliged me by only winning the first 12 hands (wherein, yet again, I had no total less than 18 on all the hands)
I then switched tables again…at this point down 2k

After some back and forth for about 4 shoes, I finally hit a nice run and won all the 2k back (I then took a dinner break)
So, for 2 ½ hours of play time, I am even

Just had dinner—taking a few minutes respite then heading back down to the casino floor.

Trip is Even
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December 30th, 2013 at 4:06:16 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

at this point down 2k



This is what I got out of that post: down 2k.

You never let me down, Ace.
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December 30th, 2013 at 5:04:31 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades


Then the other half of the shoe dropped and I proceeded to lose 13 hands in a row with my lowest hand total being a 19…



Ace.... come on.... I need a math guy to figure out the odds of being dealt a 19 or 20 13 hands in a row, and losing all of them!

I'm guessing out of 13 hands, given they are either 19 or 20, likely you would average 8 20's and 5 19's. So for EACH of your 8 20's the dealer would have needed exactly 21! And for your 5 19's the dealer would need 20 or 21. I don't know how rare what you are claiming is, but before the math guys have at it I'd guess it is less likely than a trillion to one against.
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December 30th, 2013 at 5:10:15 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades



I jokingly asked the dealer if he would treat me better than losing 13 hands in a row
Of course, he obliged me by only winning the first 12 hands (wherein, yet again, I had no total less than 18 on all the hands)



I'm imagining how you were feeling at this
point. Low, depressed, angry, frustrated.

"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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December 30th, 2013 at 8:52:50 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: aceofspades


Then the other half of the shoe dropped and I proceeded to lose 13 hands in a row with my lowest hand total being a 19…



Ace.... come on.... I need a math guy to figure out the odds of being dealt a 19 or 20 13 hands in a row, and losing all of them!

I'm guessing out of 13 hands, given they are either 19 or 20, likely you would average 8 20's and 5 19's. So for EACH of your 8 20's the dealer would have needed exactly 21! And for your 5 19's the dealer would need 20 or 21. I don't know how rare what you are claiming is, but before the math guys have at it I'd guess it is less likely than a trillion to one against.




If I had access to the surveillance tape, I would gladly share it — I believe I had 9 19's and 4 20's (and I never said these were natural 19's and 20's - there were a lot of small cards that made those up)

Also, it is not all that uncommon to lose with 19's and 20's — happens on a minute by minute basis to a lot of people I see
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December 30th, 2013 at 9:03:38 PM permalink
OK played an after-dinner session:


I started even and quickly got down 500.
First hand of the shoe I was dealt 8,8 versus dealer 8
I split and received a 9 on the first 8 for 17 and a 10 on the second 8 for an 18
Dealer flips over an Ace YUCK

Second hand of the shoe I was dealt a 5,6 versus dealer 10
I doubled and dealt a 7 for 18
Dealer turns over a 3 for 13 then draws a 6 for 19

(see I keep losing by one with good hands (yes yes I know 18 is not really a gooooood hand but it is not bad)

By the end of the shoe I Was down 800



Took a mini-break to watch some friends play at a 25 table…mid-shoe a well-dressed but obviously three sheets to the wind guy (who looked like "The Most Interesting Man in the World") slams about 400 in greens onto the table and points his finger at the dealer and says to her "YOU'RE MINE!!!" - he proceeded to throw up a mess a greens totaling about 175 on the first hand and wins—he then drops down to one green and wins—then up to 4 greens and wins—the dealer then gets a blackjack with this guy having 3 greens up—he becomes irate and screams that he "can't take it anymore" while grabbing all his chips and storming off…an interesting diversion to say the least



I sat down for another shoe at a 100min. table…things were nice from the start
1st hand blackjack
2nd hand blackjack
hands 3 through ½ shoe were back and forth but by this time I had the 800 I was down back on my side of the table…

I then got into a a couple of hands in my favor:
3,3 versus dealer 5…split the 3's
first 3 got a 4 then dealt a 9 for a 16
second 3 I got an 8 dealt a 6 for a 17
dealer had 5, flips over a 10 then busts with a King

By the end of the shoe I was up 500

Trip is +500


Time for bed
Sweet dreams
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December 30th, 2013 at 9:15:41 PM permalink
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Not blackjack, but one day long ago playing Caribbean Stud, I had trips 8 times that day and all 8 straight up lost to a higher three of a kind or better.




A woman at the next table lost 25 hands in a row at her table! The agony in her voice sounded like something out of the Pit of Despair
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December 30th, 2013 at 9:57:56 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

A woman at the next table lost 25 hands in a row at her table!



Your stories, Ace, have me writhing in delight. The
masochism of it, the sitting there losing hand after
hand. Surely you felt a twinge of 'better her than me.'
I know you're a lawyer and lawyers are devoid of
most human emotions, but c'mon..

"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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December 30th, 2013 at 10:10:39 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Your stories, Ace, have me writhing in delight. The
masochism of it, the sitting there losing hand after
hand. Surely you felt a twinge of 'better her than me.'
I know you're a lawyer and lawyers are devoid of
most human emotions, but c'mon..




Bob...it was not better her than me--I had lost the same.number of hands...just at 2 tables instead of 1
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December 30th, 2013 at 10:40:17 PM permalink
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Bob...it was not better her than me--I had lost the same.number of hands...just at 2 tables instead of 1



Yes, but now it was happening to HER, not you! And
it could have been you at that table.
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December 31st, 2013 at 12:37:18 AM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

A woman at the next table lost 25 hands in a row at her table! The agony in her voice sounded like something out of the Pit of Despair

*Raises eyebrows * that's what happens when you hit hard 20's I guess. Unless you witnessed every hand and counted them, I'm not buying it.

I have been playing since the 90's and I have never seen such an event on Blackjack or any game. I would love for someone to take a pic of a score board that has 25 losers or winners, close to even money events come up.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 31st, 2013 at 3:49:18 AM permalink
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OK - all checked in and just had dinner - but, prior to that I played for about 2 ½ hours.

Sat down at a 6D game 25min (but I played usual black chip)

The shoe started out nicely with a blackjack and 3 double downs in the first half of the shoe…at this point I was up ~700
Then the other half of the shoe dropped and I proceeded to lose 13 hands in a row with my lowest hand total being a 19…
i.e. I was dealt a natural 20 but, alas, the dealer had a blackjack
then I was dealt an Ace, 5 against a dealer 5, I doubled and was dealt a 4…too bad the dealer had a 4 under and drew an Ace for 21
more of the same happened for those 12 hands so I proceeded to switch tables…
I jokingly asked the dealer if he would treat me better than losing 13 hands in a row

Of course, he obliged me by only winning the first 12 hands (wherein, yet again, I had no total less than 18 on all the hands)
I then switched tables again…at this point down 2k

After some back and forth for about 4 shoes, I finally hit a nice run and won all the 2k back (I then took a dinner break)
So, for 2 ½ hours of play time, I am even

Just had dinner—taking a few minutes respite then heading back down to the casino floor.

Trip is Even



Good news! You didn't lose 13 hands in a row. You pushed the ace,5 double. Ask for your money back.
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December 31st, 2013 at 7:12:17 AM permalink
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Quote: aceofspades

OK - all checked in and just had dinner - but, prior to that I played for about 2 ½ hours.

Sat down at a 6D game 25min (but I played usual black chip)


Lol thanks 1BB

The shoe started out nicely with a blackjack and 3 double downs in the first half of the shoe…at this point I was up ~700
Then the other half of the shoe dropped and I proceeded to lose 13 hands in a row with my lowest hand total being a 19…
i.e. I was dealt a natural 20 but, alas, the dealer had a blackjack
then I was dealt an Ace, 5 against a dealer 5, I doubled and was dealt a 4…too bad the dealer had a 4 under and drew an Ace for 21
more of the same happened for those 12 hands so I proceeded to switch tables…
I jokingly asked the dealer if he would treat me better than losing 13 hands in a row

Of course, he obliged me by only winning the first 12 hands (wherein, yet again, I had no total less than 18 on all the hands)
I then switched tables again…at this point down 2k

After some back and forth for about 4 shoes, I finally hit a nice run and won all the 2k back (I then took a dinner break)
So, for 2 ½ hours of play time, I am even

Just had dinner—taking a few minutes respite then heading back down to the casino floor.

Trip is Even



Good news! You didn't lose 13 hands in a row. You pushed the ace,5 double. Ask for your money back.

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December 31st, 2013 at 7:31:45 AM permalink
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*Raises eyebrows * that's what happens when you hit hard 20's I guess. Unless you witnessed every hand and counted them, I'm not buying it.

I have been playing since the 90's and I have never seen such an event on Blackjack or any game. I would love for someone to take a pic of a score board that has 25 losers or winners, close to even money events come up.




It is good to have a fellow atheist on the thread!
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December 31st, 2013 at 7:38:20 AM permalink
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December 31st, 2013 at 12:38:05 PM permalink
Not going wrll ... updates to follow
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December 31st, 2013 at 1:09:30 PM permalink
Be careful Ace, NYE brings out all the nut cases in AC!


Had to deal with 3 separate players who hit Hard 14 against 5, Hard 15 against 4, and the best Hard 16 against 3!

These same "experts" would then stand on hard 14-16 against 7 or higher. But alas, they have a "hunch"...so it's all good!


Sands PA, here I come!!!
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December 31st, 2013 at 1:12:39 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Not going wrll ... updates to follow



You're a tease, Ace. You give and then you take away..

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December 31st, 2013 at 3:04:48 PM permalink
Any update ace. Hope someone wins I'm stuck over 40k in Vegas already
The bet will not be paid- not now not ever
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December 31st, 2013 at 3:14:41 PM permalink
Update from this morning til present:


Began the day +500…

Sat down to what I thought would be a leisurely pre-breakfast shoe…
First hand was dealt a 9,9 versus dealer 9…I split and dealt another 9
First 9 dealt a 2, doubled down and dealt an Ace
Second 9 dealt a 10 for 19
Third 9 dealt an 8 for 17
Dealer turned over an Ace for 20
Lost 400 on the first hand

The second hand did not fare much better
Dealt a 6,5 versus dealer 10
Dealt a 7 for 18
Dealer, of course, had a 20
Lost 200 on second hand

I decided to switch tables just because

The first few hands were back and forth, then the dealer's assault on my chip stack began
I had no pat hands - I kept having to take hits and it didn't matter what the dealer had as they were showing an Ace or face every hand
I had lost another 900 this shoe

I switched tables again…this time instead of starting +500 I was negative 1k
Things went from bad to worse as the Speed Count got good but the dealer was the one who ended up with the face cards
Lost 800 this shoe

A buddy of mine sat down and we wished one another luck…
He stayed even for the shoe and I lost another 600

It was round about this time that I thought of Bob sitting gleefully behind his computer screen cheering on the bad luck to others as his New Year joy

The beatings continued over the course of the next three shoes losing another 600 during that time


At this point in the late afternoon I was now down 3k

down…but not out

Sat down ready for bear and began making some key doubles and splits and, within ½ shoe, I had already regained 1k
I took a break for a late lunch (Italian sausage and bread)

Began playing again with a lovely Jamaican woman who informed me she was currently down 15k since Saturday
I wished her well and we began playing
I got two blackjack's out of the gate…won a double…won a split…up and down and back up again and by the end of the shoe I had regained another 1k

Into each life a little rain must fall and the next shoe was not so kind as I lost 500 back

The sun began to shine again as I had a good Speed Count and this time the face cards came my way and I was able to press it
By the end of the shoe I had regained another 2300



So, as I get ready for the gala NYE event…I regained 2800 of the 3k I was down


Trip is now -200
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December 31st, 2013 at 3:15:04 PM permalink
Quote: strictlyAP

Any update ace. Hope someone wins I'm stuck over 40k in Vegas already




Get it back strictly
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December 31st, 2013 at 3:37:54 PM permalink
Well glad you are only down 200, could have been a lot worse. Hopefully you can start 2014 up a few bucks.

Thanks again for the fun updates.
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December 31st, 2013 at 3:54:32 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades


At this point in the late afternoon I was now down 3k



Ahhhhhh....

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December 31st, 2013 at 4:48:17 PM permalink
Ana Cumpanas is in AC wearing a bright orange dress. I suggest you stop now or the number -7,000 may soon be part of your liturgy.
Shed not for her the bitter tear Nor give the heart to vain regret Tis but the casket that lies here, The gem that filled it Sparkles yet
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December 31st, 2013 at 4:58:58 PM permalink
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Ana Cumpanas is in AC wearing a bright orange dress..



The infamous 'lady in red' who ratted out Dillinger.

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December 31st, 2013 at 6:50:30 PM permalink
Right you are Bob. It appears red in the pictures because of the bright lights.
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December 31st, 2013 at 7:00:13 PM permalink
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Right you are Bob. It appears red in the pictures because of the bright lights.



Didn't you date her in the 40's?
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December 31st, 2013 at 7:32:45 PM permalink
SHHHH Josie sometimes visits this site !
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December 31st, 2013 at 10:47:11 PM permalink
Well the NYE gala was excellent - great group of people at our table…good music and food as well…left the gala around 11pm just in time to play 1 shoe and get all the way back to even for the trip before the clock struck 12midnight



HAPPY NEW YEAR everyone!!!



Trip is now even



play resumes again in the morning
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December 31st, 2013 at 11:26:22 PM permalink
That's a good way to go into 2014.
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January 1st, 2014 at 12:41:23 PM permalink
Quote: Perdition

That's a good way to go into 2014.



Nothing from Ace in 17 hours. This is good news for
somebody. But who?
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January 1st, 2014 at 3:41:16 PM permalink
Perhaps he and Ana went to see Manhattan Melodrama at the movies.
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January 1st, 2014 at 3:47:38 PM permalink
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Perhaps he and Ana went to see Manhattan Melodrama at the movies.



This is pretty odd, nothing for 21 hours. Did he
leave and go home?
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January 1st, 2014 at 4:18:05 PM permalink
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This is pretty odd, nothing for 21 hours. Did he
leave and go home?



Been busy socializing and will update soon
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January 2nd, 2014 at 4:57:36 PM permalink
What happened to Ace? No report in 48 hours,
has anybody checked the DC morgue? He'll be
the one in the $2000 suit.. I'd post his pic here
so you can tell if you've seen him, but he hates
it when I do that.
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January 2nd, 2014 at 5:08:46 PM permalink
Here we go:

The NYE party was great—they held it in Ovation Hall and the theme was "Winter Wonderland"…everything decorated in white with beautiful table decorations. My parents, some fellow gambler friends and other strangers who then became friends were all at the table.

A poll about something that occurred at the event

Surf and turf followed by chocolate lava cake YUM YUM YUM

There was a champagne toast at midnight as well and a great time was had by all.

Fast Forward to New Years Day:


2014 welcomed me by kicking my ass

Shoe 1:

I lost so fast I almost got whiplash
Negative 1k

Shoe 2:

This one only went half as fast but with similar results
Negative 900

Break time to collect my thoughts and curse EvenBob

Shoe 3:

Does anything go right for me at the game of blackjack?
8,3 double down versus dealer 3...draw the Ace…lose to 17

Split 2,2 versus dealer 6…dealt another 2…re-split…dealt another deuce
(plenty of faces to come)
First 2 draw a 7…double down get another 7 FUN FUN FUN
Second 2 draw a 9…double down get a 4 EVEN MORE FUN
Third 2 draw a 5…hit and get a 9 Ughhhhhhhh
Fourth 2 draw a 3…hit and get a King GREAT, here come the 10's

Of course, with all the low cards out there, the dealer joined in the fun by having a 3 underneath…she then drew a Queen for 18, thereby wiping me out on that hand
I thought the faces would come out in my favor with all the lows and the Speed Count going well so I pressed and, as seemed to be the case in 2014 up until then, the dealer was the only beneficiary of the positive count
I lost 1200 that shoe

At this point in the late afternoon…I was now down 3100

Dinner break/mental health break


Waited for the 8pm shift to begin and began playing again…(continued)
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January 2nd, 2014 at 5:31:21 PM permalink
Ace, I take it you are riding out #WinterStormHercules at the Revel?

Travel gonna be very messy tonight and most of tomorrow.
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January 2nd, 2014 at 5:34:55 PM permalink
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Ace, I take it you are riding out #WinterStormHercules at the Revel?

Travel gonna be very messy tonight and most of tomorrow.




I left early this morning…I will finish my trip report shortly...
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January 2nd, 2014 at 5:43:05 PM permalink
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At this point in the late afternoon…I was now down 3100



This is old news, I have a feeling things got
worse. For me..
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djatc
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January 2nd, 2014 at 8:59:08 PM permalink
11's are ace magnets for sure..... Good luck to you ace.
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EvenBob
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January 2nd, 2014 at 9:01:39 PM permalink
I think Ace is caught in the storm, somebody call 911..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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