Viva Ace Vega$
Quote: EvenBobQuote: aceofspadesOn tilt
Yet you took the time to put in the HTML
I'll believe it when you say something to
make me feel bad.
Shuffle
FML
Quote: aceofspades
Shuffle
FML
Hit the ATM, it's all or nothing!
I had to look up "FML."Quote: aceofspadesFML
Quote: teliotI had to look up "FML."
FML Definition / FML Means
The definition of FML is "F*** My Life"
Ace mocked my gold plated voodoo pins. Uh Oh..
Quote: EvenBobFML Definition / FML Means
The definition of FML is "F*** My Life"
cool, thanks for educating me. I was thinking Family Medical Leave.
Quote: aceofspadesOn tilt
Save the shoe games for AC. The best double deck blackjack is right where you are.
Played at a 6D table 100min. -- the shoe started out with some give and take but then insane variance on double downs took over...in that shoe I was "blessed" with double down opportunities 10 times...however, I did not win one of those doubles
Shoe ended losing the 1500 I was up
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Moved to the main casino area and sat down to a 6d 50min game -- 3 of the dealer's first four hands were natural blackjacks -- exit Ace stage right down 300 for the trip
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Went to the other side of the pit where the dealer's specialty seemed to be pulling 4 to 7 cars 21s -- lost another 700 here thus down 1k for the trip
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Moved back into the high limit room cursing EvenBob under my breath...lol
A dealer I enjoy playing with had an empty table and she could see I was raging -- she attempted to corral my dramatic side and have me think positively -- however, she proceeded to score herself 8 blackjacks in the shoe (I was luckily able to push one of them) -- lost another 1k that shoe and now down 2k for the trip
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Switched tables and began getting some funds back..that is, until a young guy and his girlfriend joined in midshoe -- things went south from there (with the girlfriend questioning my plays on various hands (ie surrender 15 v. King) as the dealer proceeded to make 21 more often than not -- at this point I had lost another 1k and was now down 3k for the trip
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Guy and girlfriend left the table after losing his buyin...
Dealer change brought some positive speed counts my way and I got 1k back to be down 2k for the trip
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Took a mini-break and thennplayed some 2D 100min head's up and, after two shuffles, had secured another 500 back to my side of the table
Trip is now -1500
Dinner break
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/blackjack/9810-revel-ac-has-deeeeeeestroyed-me/
Instead, he got this
What the f#%€ aceofspades. What the f#%€. :)
Quote: aceofspades
Moved back into the high limit room cursing EvenBob under my breath...
Quote: aceofspadesTrip is now -1500
good. Don't try it, Ace! The upper floors at
Aria have plexiglas windows!!
We then walked over to the Palazzo for dinner at Grimaldis (personal pizza with italian sausage and ricotta cheese for me)
Walked back to Aria after dinner and sat down for a session...
6D 100min.
Played through a shoe -- nothing much to write home about but ended with a 500 gain...
took a break and played on the main floor
6D 50min
Right before the shuffle and guy buys in with one black chip so I stayed out figuring I would let him do his thing...he played 5 hands and ended up winning 50...he left and I began
First hand blackjack
Second hand won 20 versus dealer 17
Third hand push
Fourth hand push
Fifth hand 6,5 versus dealer 6...doubled and dealt a 10 for 21...dealer flipped over an Ace for 17...just as another guy bought in for 75 (interesting unless he thought he would either bet the 75 or would double for less) so I took that as my cue to exit...
Trip is now -500
Sweet dreams to all...
Quote: aceofspades
Trip is now -500
Egggcellent...
Quote: AcesAndEightsIs this supposed game in a high-limit room somewhere? I've never seen S17 at Mandalay May on the main floor.
It will be my first time to Mandalay Bay which is why I wanted to know. I usually stay at MGM. The survey listed a S17 game at Mandalay Bay with 100min so I'm pretty sure it's in the high limit room.
Quote: Soft17It will be my first time to Mandalay Bay which is why I wanted to know. I usually stay at MGM. The survey listed a S17 game at Mandalay Bay with 100min so I'm pretty sure it's in the high limit room.
I've played this game at Mandalay Bay. It is in the high limit room. If you're not used to the casino it can be a little confusing because there are 2 high limit rooms -- an "Asian games" HL room and one with blackjack. If you are confused just ask a floorman or dealer where the high limit blackjack is and they will point you to it (that's what I had to do...)
Quote: Soft17It will be my first time to Mandalay Bay which is why I wanted to know. I usually stay at MGM. The survey listed a S17 game at Mandalay Bay with 100min so I'm pretty sure it's in the high limit room.
Mandalay Bay's main floor switched to H17 in June of 2011. I remember because I was there a couple of weeks later and was disappointed to have to cross another stop off my list.
The room you're looking for is the Crystal Room.
It seems like you don't actually play very much. Are you wonging in and then playing short sessions or do you just sit down and play a shoe/half shoe and leave? It doesn't seem like you ever play more than 10 hands in a row before exiting, unless you are just leaving out a lot.
Quote: GWAEAce, I enjoy reading your trips but I have a question.
It seems like you don't actually play very much. Are you wonging in and then playing short sessions or do you just sit down and play a shoe/half shoe and leave? It doesn't seem like you ever play more than 10 hands in a row before exiting, unless you are just leaving out a lot.
You are right - I usually enjoy short sessions
Although it might not seem like it - yesterday's craziness took almost 4 hours -- I try to give the highlights of my sessions rather than a hand by hand account
Played 1.5 shoes and got the 500 I was down
Trip is Back to even!!!
Good morning America how are ya...?
If you are counting at $50 or $100 6D shoe games, then you need a spread of 1-to-12, so your max bet should be $600 to $1200 on those games. I can't see based on your posts that you are getting the money down, and if you are, then you are going on about effectively less than two or three max bets.Quote: aceofspadesSat down for a mini-session moments ago 2D 100min.
Played 1.5 shoes and got the 500 I was down
Trip is Back to even!!!
Good morning America how are ya...?
Quote: IbeatyouracesHe's not a pro. He has fun using Speed Count.
Exactamundo -- this is recreational for me.
Just sat down at a 2D
Lost the first 6 hands including 3 doubles
First double 5,5 v dealer 7 I was dealt a 6 and dealer turned over a 10
Second double 7,3 v dealer 9 I was dealt an 8 and dealer had an Ace for 20
Third double had an 8,2 v dealer 5 I was dealt a 10 and dealer flips over a 4 then dealt a 4 then an Ace then another Ace then a 6 for 21
Was down 1k after the first shoe
However, made it all back +50 the next shoe
Trip is +50
Since I am not a pro should I post this elsewhere -- I do not want to be an imposition -- mods please advise
You don't need to be a pro to use a counting system correctly. You need a bet spread of about 12-to-1 (or to be Wonging) or you are effectively not counting. In this case, you are just going up and down as usual, and aside from EvenBob's glee when you lose, I fail to see what is interesting here.Quote: aceofspadesSince I am not a pro should I post this elsewhere -- I do not want to be an imposition -- mods please advise
Quote: aceofspades
Was down 1k after the first shoe
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This is all I read in that post..
Quote: teliotYou don't need to be a pro to use a counting system correctly. You need a bet spread of about 12-to-1 (or to be Wonging) or you are effectively not counting. In this case, you are just going up and down as usual, and aside from Evenbob's glee when you lose, I fail to see what is interesting here.
Then perhaps you should block this thread so it is off your radar
WIZARD should I stop posting? Please advise...thank you
Please continue. I think you have a lot to learn from the comments here about your own personal experiences at the tables and your opinion of what you are doing. You are not counting cards, that has become obvious to the casual reader. If you have come to realize that, then the question is, what do you expect to happen when you play?Quote: aceofspadesshould I stop posting?
Quote: teliotPlease continue. I think you have a lot to learn from the comments here about your own personal experiences at the tables and your opinion of what you are doing. You are not counting cards, that has become obvious to the casual reader. If you have come to realize that, then the question is, what do you expect to happen when you play?
I expect to have a good time and socialize and it seems my reports have garnered a following hereon...like I said...if you do not like it...why do you continue to post here?
Quote: AxelWolfIts so boring in Vegas at 7 am. I'm at the crappy end of the strip and I Have yet to sleep. Good luck Ace.
The north end, no doubt.
Are you having a good time when you lose, when you post things like "FML"? If you have no reasonable expectation of winning, then why post FML at all? Losing is, after all, the expected result.Quote: aceofspadesI expect to have a good time and socialize and it seems my reports have garnered a following hereon...like I said...if you do not like it...why do you continue to post here?
As to why I follow, I do enjoy much of what you write and also EvenBob's posts. I just wanted to interject some reality so that you are under no illusion that you are a winning player or that you should expect to win.
Quote: teliotAre you having a good time when you lose, when you post things like "FML"? If you have no reasonable expectation of winning, then why post FML at all? Losing is, after all, the expected result.
As to why I follow, I do enjoy much of what you write and also EvenBob's posts. I just wanted to interject some reality so that you are under no illusion that you are a winning player or that you should expect to win.
Well then perhaps you and my friend EvenBob should converse privately about it and leave the thread for those who enjoy?
As for me saying FML -- my rants and venting are part of my charm
Quote: midwestgbI find Teliot's comments quasi-derogatory and more generally devoid of any understanding about what makes Ace's trip reports so interesting and amusing.
Thanks midwest I appreciate the vote of confidence!
If you say so.Quote: aceofspadesAs for me saying FML -- my rants and venting are part of my charm
Quote: aceofspadesand my friend EvenBob
We're only friends if the news is good. Got
any 'good' news? I'm real easy to please.
Does the tournament start tomorrow? I
hope so.
Quote: teliotIf you say so.
At least EvenBob is a charming curmudgeon
Quote: aceofspadesI expect to have a good time and socialize and it seems my reports have garnered a following hereon...like I said...if you do not like it...why do you continue to post here?
I enjoy your wit, your candor and your play by play. It's funny because when someone starts telling me about a hand they had or how someone took their 10 I usually can't wait for them to stop talking. Not so with you, ace. I have stopped offering you advice because you've made clear exactly what you are doing and that you sit at the table with both eyes open. There is one thing that I have been wondering about. You have said more than once that you have left a table after another player has joined you. Is that a coincidence or do you think they will cause you to lose?
You have an opportunity this week to do something that you can't do at home and that is to play one of the best double deck games anywhere. I would think you would jump at it. A 1-8 spread should do it where I think that 1-12 is too conservative for the six deck using Speed Count. The double deck can generate heat from the pit but, then again, - Speed Count. Does that game still have decent penetration? Sorry if I asked you this before but do you know the basic strategy changes for that game?
Best of luck, keep the reports coming and consider me an unabashed fan.
Quote: teliotPlease continue. I think you have a lot to learn from the comments here about your own personal experiences at the tables and your opinion of what you are doing. You are not counting cards, that has become obvious to the casual reader. If you have come to realize that, then the question is, what do you expect to happen when you play?
You might notice that he never posts what his biggest bets are, just that he "presses" when the count is favorable. For all we know, he could be getting the 1-to-12 spread down sometimes, but I doubt always.
I would guess that ace is playing about a breakeven game (note that he sticks to S17 as far as I can tell). And he doesn't play aggressively so he gets tons of comps, and clearly he's a degenerate gambler and enjoys the thrills!
Quote: teliot
You are not counting cards
If I count cards proficiently and use a weak 1-5 spread, with the knowledge that I am cutting the edge down but not overcoming it, can you say I am not "counting cards?" I find this judgement to be misplaced. I sure as hell AM counting cards, I'm just not using all the information to my full advantage, because maybe I place value on not getting backed off, and I don't need the money.
Advising people about their possibly unrealistic expectations is great, and a service to the amateur AP community - don't get me wrong. But I think that
A) ace knows what he's doing
B) you don't have all of the information.
Quote: teliotPlease continue. I think you have a lot to learn from the comments here about your own personal experiences at the tables and your opinion of what you are doing. You are not counting cards, that has become obvious to the casual reader. If you have come to realize that, then the question is, what do you expect to happen when you play?
You understand that some people enjoy gambling, right?
Say you play in a good double-deck game with a 0.25% combined house edge (including the cut card effect). You don't count, but you play basic strategy. It's a black chip game, and you vary your bets a bit for fun, but your average bet is $200. You play at a table with other people, and the dealer gets through about 60 hands per hour (this is a hand-shuffled game)
Ok, so, you are losing $30 an hour. Say you play for 5 hours a day. So you lose $150 per day. Maybe you tip off another $50 between the dealers and the hot waitresses. You also get a nice room or suite for free. And they bring you booze (good booze, for the black-chip tables) for free. And they are going to pay for your food as well. And you get to gamble, which you enjoy!
A suite in a nice hotel, free booze, and free food, and entertainment, for $200/day? That is a pretty cheap vacation.
Ace do you play VP or slots? Do you get enough in comps from BJ alone? Sometimes it might be worth running some money through since they give you freeplay which could dampen the losses.
Quote: 1BBI enjoy your wit, your candor and your play by play. It's funny because when someone starts telling me about a hand they had or how someone took their 10 I usually can't wait for them to stop talking. Not so with you, ace. I have stopped offering you advice because you've made clear exactly what you are doing and that you sit at the table with both eyes open. There is one thing that I have been wondering about. You have said more than once that you have left a table after another player has joined you. Is that a coincidence or do you think they will cause you to lose?
You have an opportunity this week to do something that you can't do at home and that is to play one of the best double deck games anywhere. I would think you would jump at it. A 1-8 spread should do it where I think that 1-12 is too conservative for the six deck using Speed Count. The double deck can generate heat from the pit but, then again, - Speed Count. Does that game still have decent penetration? Sorry if I asked you this before but do you know the basic strategy changes for that game?
Best of luck, keep the reports coming and consider me an unabashed fan.
Yes I consult the Wizard charts before coming to Vegas for all deviations
Quote: djatcIf you count a little (small bet spread, not utilizing all index plays) on a high limit game, wouldn't you have no heat whatsoever, and enjoy free comps? The house has an extreme minuscule edge or none, and they are throwing rooms, food, and hookers (ok maybe just top shelf alcohol from cocktail waitresses) because they believe they are making money off of you, one hand at a time from their house edge.
Ace do you play VP or slots? Do you get enough in comps from BJ alone? Sometimes it might be worth running some money through since they give you freeplay which could dampen the losses.
Corner suite, 300 food credit, tournament invite
(Even Fleetwood Mac and NYE party which I had to decline)
I am beyond satisfied with my complimentaries!
First shoe I could not win a hand
Lost 800
Second shoe had 2 blackjacks so that staved off some more insanity and only lost 200
Third shoe I was the victim of the dealer pulling 4 to 7 card 21s when I had 20s (three times)...lost 400
Fourth shoe was nondescript and lost another 300
Down 1700 at this point...the apologetic dealer went on break and shoe number five began
Started with a a string of low cards on both sides of the table and the dreaded speed count climbed...as did my chip pile...had a few nice presses and within 4 hands had the 2k back...simultaneously, my phone rang with a family call and decided I would take the call and a break
Trip is even
Quote: aceofspades
Down 1700 at this point.
(This one is actually really, really funny)
Quote: EvenBob
Bob...is that a selfie?!? LOL
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceOk, since I've been back, I've been wondering... who the hell taught Bob how to post pictures?
(This one is actually really, really funny)
All his pictures on this thread totally rock.
keep it up Bob, you are a genius in this area.
