Keyser
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April 29th, 2010 at 1:49:02 PM permalink
Since the dealers have become unionized, they seem to be free to spill the guts on some of the stuff that's been happening.

In the Terrance case, according to the transcripts, there are people on record saying that they've witnessed him drunk while playing, among other things. The union is effecting how this case is playing out, since casinos can't put pressure on the dealers directly without a union rep. being present. One of the things a casino can not due is allow a player to gamble like Terrance Watanabe was, while they're drunk. It's a very serious violation. (Let's watch to see if gaming enforces this one.)

I wonder, if Terrance would have won a fraction of what he had loss, if he would have been paid? I suspect they would accuse him of cheating to avoid paying. (Bad faith perahps?)

I'm guessing we'll see all sorts of stuff in the next few weeks. In the short term, just set down at a table with just the dealer and ask them what the newest scandal is.

We should start a thread called: "Stories and Scandal From The Dealers at Caesar's Palace" :)

-Keyser
teddys
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April 29th, 2010 at 2:23:39 PM permalink
He won't win. What jury is going to find for a drunk, stupid idiot who gambled away his family's fortune? He would have to have 2x OJ-caliber representation. However, I think he at least has a case for trial if he can prove that Harrahs' behavior was wanton or recklessly negligent, or they encouraged him to gamble while drunk. To know that, we need to know some more facts which is why I hope discovery happens.

Anybody who is more familiar with Nevada state law feel free to chime in here.
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Keyser
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April 29th, 2010 at 3:12:07 PM permalink
Here are the court documents in the Terrance Watanbe case. Caesars was hell bent on fleecing this guy in my opinion.

http://www.radaronline.com/sites/default/files/lettertogamingsm.pdf
Aussie
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April 29th, 2010 at 3:21:58 PM permalink
If we can get back to my original question, do these tables see many players or do they sit largely empty? If you were yo walk past on any given might would you be likely to see someone playing at a $5k minimum?
Keyser
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April 29th, 2010 at 3:29:56 PM permalink
They have occasional players, but people that are playing at that level know that Caesars isn't exactly a safe bet right now.
It's one thing to play that big and lose, and another thing to play that large and actually get paid by them if you win.
Too many rumors.

Talk to the hosts at the other properties.

The Wynn/Encore appears to be the best bet.
pacomartin
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April 30th, 2010 at 1:16:29 AM permalink
Quote: Aussie

If we can get back to my original question, do these tables see many players or do they sit largely empty? If you were yo walk past on any given might would you be likely to see someone playing at a $5k minimum?



There is a semi-private casino room called the Palace Court Tables that you can't just walk into. It's on the property map.
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April 30th, 2010 at 7:32:04 AM permalink
Quote: Keyser

They have occasional players, but people that are playing at that level know that Caesars isn't exactly a safe bet right now.
It's one thing to play that big and lose, and another thing to play that large and actually get paid by them if you win.
Too many rumors.

Talk to the hosts at the other properties.

The Wynn/Encore appears to be the best bet.



What other rumors?
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Keyser
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April 30th, 2010 at 4:28:37 PM permalink
It appears Terrance Watanbe's case has caught the attention of the Gaming Control Board. His chances of winning just improved. The story from today is below.
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Apr. 29, 2010
Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal

Gaming agents step up probe of indicted high-roller's claims

By JEFF GERMAN
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
Terrance Watanabe

State gaming agents are stepping up an investigation into an indicted high-roller's claims that Harrah's Entertainment casinos unlawfully encouraged him to gamble away tens of millions of dollars by keeping him in a constant state of intoxication.

Within the past two weeks, agents with the Nevada Gaming Control Board began intensive interviews with witnesses who Terrance Watanabe's lawyers say can corroborate allegations Caesars Palace and the Rio supplied him with a steady flow of alcohol and prescription painkillers as his gambling losses piled up in 2007.






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As many as 20 current and former Harrah's employees are expected to be questioned, sources said.

The heightened probe comes as Watanabe's lawyers are pressing the district attorney's office to drop criminal fraud charges against the 53-year-old Nebraska philanthropist. Watanabe is charged with not paying $14.7 million in gambling markers at Caesars Palace and the Rio.

Watanabe's lead Los Angeles attorney, Pierce O'Donnell, pitched his case for dismissal last month in a meeting with Assistant District Attorney Chris Owens and Chief Deputy District Attorney Bernie Zadrowski, who runs the bad check unit prosecuting Watanabe.

Zadrowski would not discuss the meeting, but said Watanabe's lawyers brought a box of documents relating to Watanabe's extensive play and marker payments at the Harrah's casinos. The lawyers estimate the 53-year-old Watanabe lost $112 million at the casinos in 2007.

District Attorney David Roger said he was unsure what impact the gaming investigation would have on the criminal prosecution. "We have been in contact with gaming agents who have told us they will share any information they uncover in their investigation. "

Gaming Control Board Chairman Dennis Neilander would not discuss the latest developments in the Harrah's investigation. He has said the board would not take any regulatory action until the criminal case is over.

"We're moving ahead," Neilander said his week. "We're conducting the investigation in a way that isn't interfering with the criminal matter being handled by the district attorney."

Harrah's spokesman Gary Thompson wouldn't discuss the latest developments in the investigation.

"We have been and will continue to cooperate fully with the Gaming Control Board as it looks into what we consider nothing more than an attempt by Mr. Watanabe to divert attention from his criminal activities," Thompson said.

The district attorney's office filed charges against Watanabe last year at the request of Harrah's, the world's largest casino company.

O'Donnell would not comment on his effort to persuade the district attorney's office to drop the criminal case, but he said he was pleased that gaming regulators were picking up the pace of the Harrah's investigation.

"We are gratified that the Nevada Gaming Control Board appears to be exercising its statutory authority and duty to investigate the serious allegations raised by Terry Watanabe against Caesars Palace and the Rio," he said.

O'Donnell brought the allegations to light in a 24-page complaint filed with the Control Board on Nov. 18. O'Donnell accused Harrah's Entertainment of "continuously" serving "massive amounts of alcohol" to Watanabe as he gambled when the company knew he was intoxicated.

O'Donnell also alleged Harrah's "repeatedly gave him prescription painkillers (without a doctor's prescription or diagnosis) that combined with alcohol rendered him utterly intoxicated and unfit to gamble."

Nevada gaming regulations prohibit casinos from allowing "visibly intoxicated" gamblers from continuing to gamble.

O'Donnell also charged in his complaint that Harrah's Entertainment encouraged Watanabe to gamble "often without sleep" when it knew he was a chronic problem gambler.

O'Donnell has supplied regulators with nearly a dozen names of witnesses he believes can corroborate Watanabe's allegations that the company preyed on his gambling addiction.

Contact Jeff German at jgerman@reviewjournal.com or 702-380-8135.
ahiromu
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April 30th, 2010 at 5:02:38 PM permalink
I have to be completely honest: If I ever get that rich, blowing $100 mil in Vegas would be one of my top 5 things to do. I mean if it was my entire fortune, that would be retarded... but if I was worth billions. I mean my parents would probably disown me, but that was probably a magical Vegas trip he had.
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teddys
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April 30th, 2010 at 7:17:04 PM permalink
Magical trip? The guy was plied with Jewel of Russia vodka and Lortab painkillers and was basically kept a voluntary prisoner at Caesars for seven months. He was stumbling around in a drugged stupor most of the time, if the complaint is to be believed. I don't think I would call that "magical."

Link to the complaint
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4

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