Revel - new shuffle
According to the dealers, it is only for blackjack games and NOT baccarat
One pitboss told me they believe the new shuffle was instituted to "decrease shuffle times"
I have heard from a lot of people that they have seen extremely bad variance since the institution of the new shuffle technique
Quote: MathExtremistWhat's the new procedure? What was the old one?
the new one involves splitting the 6 decks evenly, then taking half of each one and moving it to the top of each pile
then the two piles are split into three smaller piles each
then a few cards from the top of the now six piles are combined and riffled...this is done until the cards are in one pile
the cards are then split into two piles, taking half of each one and again moving it to the top of each pile
then, finally, cards from each pile are combined, riffled, and made into one pile
the cut card is placed by a player
the dealer then shifts the cards around the cut card and places the cut card about 70% pen
Quote: aceofspadesthe new one involves splitting the 6 decks evenly, then taking half of each one and moving it to the top of each pile
then the two piles are split into three smaller piles each
then a few cards from the top of the now six piles are combined and riffled...this is done until the cards are in one pile
the cards are then split into two piles, taking half of each one and again moving it to the top of each pile
then, finally, cards from each pile are combined, riffled, and made into one pile
the cut card is placed by a player
the dealer then shifts the cards around the cut card and places the cut card about 70% pen
Very common and it really makes no difference. They could end the shoe and throw the cards in the air or do the shuffle you described and it's all the same. The cards don't know how many players are going to be playing at the table and they don't know who's going to hit on 16 and who's not. It's all the same and has no effect on variance.
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13The cards don't know how many players are going to be playing at the table
Yup. In order for a shuffle to be meaningful, the
player count has to b known beforehand and it
never is. It's how they used to cheat in the old
days, a team would fill every seat and the shuffle
was false.
Quote: Zcore13Very common and it really makes no difference. They could end the shoe and throw the cards in the air or do the shuffle you described and it's all the same. The cards don't know how many players are going to be playing at the table and they don't know who's going to hit on 16 and who's not. It's all the same and has no effect on variance.
ZCore13
This is right of course. It goes to the same illogical argument about a player "taking the bust card"....all that has to happen is for one player to get up or another player to sit down and all the cards change. Makes no difference. Shuffle however you want, I could care less. Though I like a hand shuffle (as opposed to the machines) it gives a person a break from counting...errr....I mean playing.
I could easily believe a casino changing the shuffle to a simpler procedure so as to create more uniformity amongst the dealers. Casinos don't like it when some employees don't follow the same exact procedure as everyone else; that's a "red flag" to them.
I had the same question a few years ago at one of the casinos I used to visit, and I flat-out asked one of the bosses why.
She told me the new shuffle was a countermeasure to a shuffle-tracking team reputed to be in town.
Oh, BTW, I firmly believe the only reason she gave me such a direct response was because we had already had dinner together a few weeks prior.
