Rorry
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October 11th, 2013 at 6:05:38 PM permalink
First off I want to thank Renzey for Kiss III. It's worked great for me so far. Recently I've dabbled in some balanced counts and have them down fairly well. I'm interested in tweaking the Kiss III count a little more but when it comes to knowing if it's better or worse, I'm unsure.

What if instead of the normal Kiss III method of counting, we added a -0.5 for all 9's(EDIT MADE IN POST BELOW, CHANGED TO -0.25) and turned it into a balanced count?
How will this compare to Kiss II and normal Kiss III?

Could someone run sims to test this?

Or is my idea completely wack?
~R
Rorry
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October 12th, 2013 at 6:52:22 PM permalink
Thought a little more about this, looking at the 9's EOR, perhaps it would be better to count only 1/4th. Say every 9oD?

I wonder how much of an effect this will have on the Index play of normal Kiss III... or the count itself in general?
~R
Rorry
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October 13th, 2013 at 12:07:43 PM permalink
I guess it is a simplified Level 4 count with a slightly higher error rate.

-1, +1/2, +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, 0, -1/4, -1 (Kiss III Tweak/new count?)
instead of
-4, +2, +4, +4, +4, +4, +4, 0, -1, -4 (Some lvl4 count)

I would love someone to run a sim of either of these counts. Or perhaps someone with better count creation know-how would be able to say if this is actually an improvement or not?
~R
VPRookie
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October 15th, 2013 at 1:13:33 AM permalink
Hi Rorry,

Yes, the new system will have slightly bigger betting correlation and playing efficiency. But this is not worth the efforts. And there will be a slight decrease in insurance correlation.

You can see for yourself by using this calculator: http://www.blackjackinfo.com/card-counting-efficiency.php

Hope this help!

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October 15th, 2013 at 5:03:18 AM permalink
Quote: Rorry

I guess it is a simplified Level 4 count with a slightly higher error rate.

-1, +1/2, +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, 0, -1/4, -1 (Kiss III Tweak/new count?)
instead of
-4, +2, +4, +4, +4, +4, +4, 0, -1, -4 (Some lvl4 count)

I would love someone to run a sim of either of these counts. Or perhaps someone with better count creation know-how would be able to say if this is actually an improvement or not?



No one's run any sims but Renzy did respond to you on the other site. That was you on blackjacktheforum right?
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
Rorry
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October 15th, 2013 at 12:47:31 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

No one's run any sims but Renzy did respond to you on the other site. That was you on blackjacktheforum right?



Yep, I took it to PMs with him.
~R
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